Compact raid frame replacement?

Maggz · 09-06-12, 06:25 PM

OK i know there is a couple addons that do something similar to what that does, however what i am looking for is something that performs and looks like wMarker. but having the functionality of what the compact raid frame does. I personally have made some modifications to wMarker to actually do this task, so i do know it is something doable, however i dont feel my understanding of LUA is really where it needs to be to pull this type of addon off. If someone would like to collaborate with me and see what modifications i have made and would be interested in this task. i would be more than happy to show them some of the work ive put into it thus far.

ATM i have currently updated wmarker to partially work with the new MoP changes (ie. changed things like getnumpartymembers() to current values. I added in a workable button to perform rolechecks, another workable button to perform convert to raid. Added in a snippet i found searching to remove the compact raid frame entirely. Basically anything that the default bar does atm i am able to hack into the current mod im using, however i am having issues with things like updating state changes (like when your given and taken away assist in raid the mod isnt updating accordingly for hide functions) also a /reload no longer hides the compact raid frame.

Anyhow i am sure with enough time i probably could make some of those issues work, but at the same time ive put so much into modifications that really this is becoming a completely new addon above and beyond what the original could perform.

any help thoughts or insite would be much appreciated.

Phanx · 09-06-12, 06:59 PM

I'm somewhat confused about what your goal is. You say you want an addon to replace the compact raid frames -- which are unit frames displaying your group members' health and other info -- with an addon, and you want that addon to also replace the addon wMarker -- which lets you quickly place raid target icons on units. Those two features are not really related, and I don't think you're going to have much luck finding an addon that encompasses both...

Maggz · 09-06-12, 07:52 PM

what im trying to replace is the functions performed by the compact raid frame, not the actual unit frames, IE. the rolecheck readycheck, marker, flares interface. which as i stated i have hacked in something semi workable into an existing addon wmarker. However, i dont want to have to mod an addon that already exists with each update to wow. Sorry if i was over explained in the detail. and as stated i know there is current crf mods out there however all the ones ive found pretty much remove the bar on your screen partially or just place the entire crf frame elsewhere. That is something i think looks ugly as heck, and im sure others feel similarly. The unit frames can be handled very easily by unit frame mods like xperl, shadowedUI and the like. which is why im not looking to perform those functions of the crf in this type of mod.

Phanx · 09-06-12, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by Maggz

... rolecheck readycheck, marker, flares interface

There are tons of standalone marker and flare addons; search for "mark" and "flare" to find them.

You don't need an addon to start a ready check; just type "/readycheck".

You can use the following code to add a slash command for starting a role check:

Code:

SLASH_ROLECHECK1 = "/rolecheck"
SlashCmdList.ROLECHECK = InitiateRolePoll

You may be able to find some Broker plugins that give you click-access to these functions; have you looked through the Broker plugin category on this site?

Maggz · 09-06-12, 08:34 PM

no i have not, dont you have to have a controller addon to use broker plugins in the first place?, that would kinda defeat the purpose of what im proposing. and yes ty for the coding methods to incorporate those into something as a macro. i did say i already did add these elements into an existing mod already so i actually did already know the coding required to do so. As my original posts states, i am looking for a mod that does the command functions in the crf, maybe i should have also stated that it should be a standalone addon and not a plugin to some UI mod that has tons of stuff in it i dont really want. I do thank you very much for your replies but i think possibly im describing myself incorrectly there. Below is a link to show something as to what im looking for, this was something i accomplished in another addon as i stated in first post.

Othgar · 09-06-12, 09:09 PM

So you already have the functionality you're looking for in an addon you modified, but you want some one else to come up with and maintain one, so you don't have to spend your time on it.... or at least that's what I'm seeing here. There are Broker addons that can do what you're asking for but there are no stand alone ones. I just spent 15 minutes searching both here and curse and came up with nothing but broker addons. If you already have the functionality you want coded in and working then you may as well maintain it yourself or install a data broker.

Torhal · 09-06-12, 09:19 PM

All of my Databroker AddOns are also stand-alone; I use LibDBIcon to place them on the MiniMap by default, with an option in the settings to turn it off so it can be displayed as intended in a Databroker Display AddOn.

Maggz · 09-06-12, 09:20 PM

in short yes, i really dont feel i have the knowledge to create a stand alone addon to perform that stuff. And atm i have not heard a reply from the addon i modified to perform it as to whether he is actively maintaining his addon. Thus my reasoning for posting something here to see if someone has interest in this sort of project. I was under the impression this was the correct forum thread to request such an action. If i am mistaken then my appologies. I am not looking for just a free handout from someone to build an addon catered to myself, I am offering to share what modifications ive done to a current project in hopes possibly collaborate something with someone. As it currently stands i really dont want to have to download a UI replacement only to gain one set of functions i may or maynot gain by using broker. I also know my own limitations as pertaining to coding an addon from the ground up. I give lots of credit to those who do so.

Phanx · 09-07-12, 12:18 AM

Originally Posted by Maggz

... my reasoning for posting something here to see if someone has interest in this sort of project. I was under the impression this was the correct forum thread to request such an action.

It is, but when you're asking for an addon to do X, when there are already many other addons that do X, you shouldn't be too surprised when the response you get is more "well, just go use those addons".

If you want to write a 15th raid marking addon yourself as a learning excercise, or if you want to continue working with your modified addon, you'll find that everyone here is willing to help you solve specific problems, but we need to see the actual code you're working with, and you need to be a pb]lot[/b] more specific about the problems you're having and what kind of help you need.

What you will probably not find, though, is someone who is willing to spend their time writing a 15th raid marking addon for you from scratch, or spending days/weeks walking you through writing one yourself from scratch, when there are so many addons already written that do exactly that.

You say you're not looking for a handout, but someone walking you through writing an addon isn't much less of a handout than someone writing the addon for you. There is a big difference for you -- one way you learn something, and the other way you don't -- but not so much of a difference for the person on the other end of the transaction. Whether you hire a plumber to fix your leaky sink pipe while you watch TV, or you hire a plumber and ask him to show you how to fix the pipe yourself, either way, the plumber is doing most of the work.

Originally Posted by Maggz

... i really dont want to have to download a UI replacement only to gain one set of functions i may or maynot gain by using broker.

I'm not sure what your objection is... you're already using a "UI replacement"; all we're suggesting is that you use a different one. If your objection is that you don't want to use 5 addons that each do 1 thing, instead of 1 addon that does 5 things, well, any addon author will tell you that it's generally better for everyone -- authors and users -- when there 5 different authors who are each only responsible for maintaining 1 thing, instead of 1 author who is responsible for everything.

DataBroker addons are no different -- writing a GUI is generally a big annoying time sink. I'd much rather only have to spend time on my addon's actual features, and let someone else provide the GUI. With DataBroker, not only can dozens of addons share the same GUI, but you -- the user -- gets to pick which GUI that is. It's a win-win for everyone.

If you don't like the suggestions you're getting (and you seem not to), you're going to have to be more specific about what you want, and more specific about why you don't like the suggestions you've gotten, if you expect anyone to be able to give you better suggestions.

(Also, using line breaks in your posts would help a lot... when your whole post is one big paragraph, it's very hard to read.)

Maggz · 09-07-12, 06:30 AM

phanx i think your misunderstanding me entirely. i saw this was a addon request thread. i posted an idea for a new addon that as far as anyone has searched here isnt done by any one addon. simply put it is a request, i understand your trying to assist me by having me download 5 addons to get the same job done. To use your reference, i wouldnt hire 5 plumbers to fix my leaking pipes, id hire just one who can do all of the job. If im being silly in this request fine i understand it is not something your particularly interested in doing, your probably not the plumber for the job. lets just agree to disagree here and ill move on with just using what i have and hacking in the additions ive made to what im already using each and every update the author does. thank you for your time.

**Seerah** · 09-07-12, 12:21 PM

I think you're misunderstanding Phanx's attempt at help, Maggz.

She's not saying that no one would ever take up your suggestions. She's just saying that if this is something you want (and want now/soon/ever) then your best bet is to either use what's already available or to make it yourself.

These are alternatives to waiting. Not your only solution.

Maggz · 09-07-12, 07:08 PM

Yes again TY for the suggestions, ive actually went into the current addon im using and completely resolved all its errors, added the new functionality i was looking for and awaiting the current authors reply to see if they are still even working on the project. If i can get his/her OK then ill attempt to take over the project or atleast see if he/she would be fine with me using what i took from his/her addon and sharing it with others.
All in All i will definatly call it a learning experiance, and one that i didnt think i was capable of. I havent done any attempt at doing anything like this since my irc days. That was atleast 10 yrs ago when i had done unrealircd mods. took a bit to get the hang of finding out LUA info and trying to understand it vs what i remembered from then. With that said tho, i dont feel there is any reason i couldnt continue this addon and keep it current and up to date. the actual core of it really is pretty simple now that i delve into it further. I may even work on adding a couple more functions that i figured didnt even matter from that compact raid frame.

Phanx · 09-07-12, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by Maggz

... i wouldnt hire 5 plumbers to fix my leaking pipes, id hire just one who can do all of the job.

No, but if you had a leaking pipe, a leaking roof, a stain on your carpet, a hole in your wall, and a colony of mice living in your walls, while they are all "problems with your house" and you might be able to find one person who could fix all of those problems for you, it would be a lot easier (and probably more efficient, and possibly even cheaper) to just hire 5 specialists.