02-16-15, 10:17 PM | #1 |
Update issues
I updated Minion at work today (previous installed version was from Dec. 21, which I'd posted about here) and ran into some new issues.
The download link (which finally works when Google Analytics isn't loaded, yay!) seems to point at an old version. I clicked it 15 minutes ago, downloaded, installed, launched, and was immediately prompted to update again, though the in-app information listed the latest update as being 2-3 days old. Despite this not being a fresh install, after the second update, I was prompted to select which drives to scan for games... and despite selecting only the C: drive which only contains one WoW install (and zero ESO installs) it proceeded to "detect" addons for 4 WoW installs. "Detecting WoW-4 AddOns" took about 10 minutes to complete. Now that it finally finished launching, it is indeed displaying 4 WoW installs, all labeled "World of Warcraft". Looking at the folder path for each one, it obviously ignored the part where I told it to only scan the C: drive, as 3 of the installs are on network drives (mapped to drive letters) which explains why it took so long to scan them. Clicking the "maximize" button not only does not actually maximize the window (it leaves about 30px between itself and the edges of the screen) but also moved it to my other monitor (it was on the second monitor, and moved to the first one). And updated info re: previously reported issues: I don't see any misidentifications in the list this time, so that's good, but some addons are still missing. At a glance I think most, if not all, of the addons I previously reported as missing are still missing, but I don't have time to do a comprehensive survey right now. However, Git repositories and SVN working copies are still not ignored, so that's bad, and I still can't try the "update all" or auto-update features. This really can't take very long to implement. System DPI is still ignored, and font rendering is still not great; note the blobby capital "B"s and "P"s in addon titles, and the general pixellated awfulness of the larger text: Low contrast is still a problem, but would be much less of a problem if the app scaled with the system DPI setting, since then the text would be larger. (For reference, when I say "system DPI" I'm talking about the settings you get by right-clicking your desktop, picking Screen Resolution, then clicking "Make text or other items larger or smaller" and selecting "Medium" or "Large". I use the Medium setting; I'd rather use Large, but I can't because it causes too many problems with too many programs written by people who don't know/care about even basic accessibility... a category which sadly includes Blizzard.) Version number boxes are still too narrow, and the tooltip delay is too long. When the window is "maximized" about 50% of the horizontal space is just blank -- there's plenty of room to show the whole version string when it's long! Scrolling quickly is still jumpy, and still causes an annoying strobe effect since the mouseover highlight doesn't update at the same time as everything else. Version number boxes and "update" buttons are also affected -- when scrolling from "addons that need updates" (perhaps more properly entitled "lies" ) to "addons that are up to date" you can see the "update" button and the red/gray version boxes are still shown on the bottom few rows for a noticable fraction of a second before the update routine catches up. However, the addon icons and names update in realtime, so I'm not sure why the whole row isn't updated at the same time... Typing in the search box is nicely responsive now... but deleting the contents of the search box by holding down the backspace key is very slow, like it's still using the old super-slow code path to filter the list each time the text contents changes while it's being deleted. Still getting weird cursors (usually <---> resize cursor) when mousing over addon rows most of the time.
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02-16-15, 10:50 PM | #2 | |||||||||||
The 2nd issue there is interesting. I see that now and will make a bug ticket for it.
Thanks for your feedback and I do appreciate it. Last edited by Dolby : 02-16-15 at 11:04 PM. |
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02-16-15, 11:48 PM | #3 | ||
Most of them, yes, though a few are under Utilities > Developer Utilities, Utilities > Libraries, or Optional > Outdated Mods. Here's the list from my December post, with "Utilities" addons additionally marked; tomorrow I should have time to do a more detailed check to see if anything else is missing:
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02-20-15, 10:55 PM | #4 |
Attached minion.xml and log files; I see several issues in there:
The WoW-2 install is pointing at a PTR client that has not existed on this computer for months. It should be able to quickly identify that the install is gone, and just remove it from the game list. (Note that the Curse Client fails at this too; it keeps wasting time scanning for old PTR/beta installs until I explicitly remove them from its list of detected games. Doesn't seem like it should be so hard to do this right!) The WoW-3 and -4 installs are on a networked drive that I un-checked on the "which drives do you want to scan for addons" dialog and had also explictly told Minion to ignore during my previous test session months earlier. As suspected, Bagnon is not being detected because I've removed the optional Bagnon_GuildBank plugin folder: Code:
[2015-02-16 19:48:11.WARNING com.zam.minion.service.AddOnDetectionService checkSavedExist AddOn 'Bagnon' has been manually removed (missing dir 'Bagnon_GuildBank'). Also seeing a lot of entries like this in the log: Code:
[2015-02-16 19:48:11.WARNING com.zam.minion.service.AddOnDetectionService checkSavedExist AddOn 'oUF Phanx' has been manually removed (missing dir 'oUF_Phanx').
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02-20-15, 11:29 PM | #5 |
And running again; new observations:
It would be nice for the in-app update to have some kind of progress bar. When I click "update now" it just closes itself and there's no visual indication that it's actually downloading or installing the update; I just have to take it on faith and wait a minute for it to re-open, apparently having succeeded in the update. It would also be nice to be able to cancel the "Detecting **** AddOns" scan on startup, though admittedly probably not in many cases. In my case, I just don't want to spend 10 minutes scanning backup files on some remote networked drive that probably hasn't been defragged in a decade, since as soon as it's done doing that I'm going to tell it to never look at that install again (and maybe even just delete the installation, since I have no idea why there is a copy of WoW in a backup directory... I guess someone just used manual copy and paste when backing up). When deleting an addon (right-click, Remove Game From Minion) the My Games list briefly shows all installs the client has ever found, including ones I already deleted, for about 1 second before updating to hide the deleted ones. This also happens when uninstalling an addon (right-click, Uninstall) except that in this scenario the list does not update again to hide the deleted games, and continues to show them until I mouse over them; deleted games are hidden when moused over. Edit: Also happens when updating an addon by clicking the "Update" button. Probably happens when using Update All too but I can't test that because 99.99999% of the suggested updates are either obviously wrong or would overwrite a Git repo or SVN working copy. Edit #2: While I was formatting the lists I noticed the Minion window refreshed (presumably after checking for new updates) and showed all the deleted games again until I moused over them. Current list of addons not detected: Stand-Alone AddOns
No reason to hide these.Outdated Mods It's probably correct to hide these addons when installing new addons through Minion, but probably not correct to hide them in the list of addons the user already has installed. The Curse Client does this -- old addons are listed if installed, but hidden in the "get more addons" list. Addon version detection problems: Wrong installed version detected: I'm not sure what these detections are based on since I've never installed or updated most (if any) of these addons through Minion, but it's definitely using versions detected from some old scan.
Bad update suggestions: All of the above are also giving either bad suggestions, or at least telling me to update to the version I already have, but at least they look correct based on the version Minion wrongly thinks I have installed. These ones are obviously bad:
More bad update suggestions, but these aren't logically obvious and probably can't be handled by Minion unless the author is diligent about uploading each and every version (including alphas) to both Curse and WoWInterface:
Not bothering to list all my Git repos and SVN working copies since that's not information you don't already have, but of the 83 suggested updates, only 1 was actually an update. Attached is the log file for the second run where all these detection problems were observed.
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