OK, there's a lot of brewhaha in the forums about this and it's starting to detract from the purpose of other threads, so I'm just going to post my views on people's objection to the Mazzlegasm. If you want to discuss it, do it here in this thread rather than the other ones.

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Question: Oh my god, my character did something I didn't tell it to do! It's out of my control! That's just not right.

Answer:

If you don't like an add-on that makes your character say something when you install it, don't use it. It's the same thing as choosing not to use an add-on like Necrosis that mutters something when you summon your pet. No one is forcing you to use this.

To make sure you know about this, I've added a clearly labelled note at the end of the the description of the UI that warns you that your character may yell and emote when installing.

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Question: Why do you even do this?

Answer:

My UI has an in-character theme throughout the whole process about converting your character, mazzification, etc. For better or worse, having your character exclaim and dance is the final part of the installer's presentation.

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Question: Well, I don't mind it making me say something, but it used the syllable 'gasm' which, after looking it up, means intense. While intense isn't offensive, it's also in the word 'orgasm' which has to do with sex, which really offends me! I know you don't say the actual word orgasm, but the two sound alike and I'm on the internet, so that's grounds enough to complain!

Answer:

The game simply isn't Toontown. It's rated T and clearly says "suggestive themes" on the box. That syllable isn't even half as suggestive as the official content of some of the /flirt and /silly emotes that come with the game.

Outside of the obvious fact that this game is basically an sequences of quests to mass murder one group after another (which I do think people should also find offensive), these are value judgments. What is important is this: Objectively speaking, comparing it to the rating in the game and content built in to it, I don't think it's at all inappropriate in the WoW environment.

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Question: I'm worried about getting in trouble! What if someone reports me?

Answer:

If you're really concerned about it, don't use the add-on or mazzify away from other people. I've put a lot of thought into it and decided that I don't think it's inappropriate for the environment.

If it's any comfort, me and probably about a hundred testers have been yelling this term for well over a year. No one has ever had a problem come out of it. Moreover, one of my characters, whom I've had for a year and a half, my priest, is named Mazzlegasm. She used to be my main character. Given the duration that I've had this character and the fact that I'm on a server with actual naming constraints, I would be very surprised if no one has ever reported it. I have never once got any indication that it was inappropriate from a GM.

Sadly, there's nothing people love in MMO's more than complaining, young and old alike. If you don't want to deal with people who object to things that you say, I'd suggest not playing an MMO. And if you don't want to deal with people objecting to this particular thing, either don't use the UI or mazzify somewhere people won't hear it. I think they're making a mountain out of a molehill and that it's well within the bounds of what's appropriately suggestive in this game.

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Question: What about the children?!? They are our future! We must teach them well and let them lead the way!

Answer:

If parents are concerned about inappropriate content and they deem "Mazzlegasm" as inappropate, then they shouldn't be or let their kids be anywhere near WoW. The suggestiveness of the syllable "gasm" is trivial compared to the lewd stuff that her kids are GUARANTEED to run across in general chat and interaction with the crude teens and 20-somethings that make up the majority of the MMO population, profanity filter or not. They simply cannot control that. And, at the risk of repeating myself, it is well within the bounds of the suggestive offical content already in the game. Frankly, I think the term is tame and silly-sounding more than anything.

Should you tell parents that they're being absurd? That's up to you. I probably wouldn't. (Hmm, you could point them to this thread if you wanted to.) Anyway, I'm just telling you that I don't find their argument compelling, and I don't think it's a basis to change anything.

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Question: Personally, I love the Mazzlegasm. I just don't like hearing it 20 times in a row as I re-mazzify or mazzify multiple characters. Can you do something about that?

Answer:

I agree. And to this end, there has been a throttle on Mazzlegasms for quite some time. Unfortunately, it's current disabled. While in beta, some people reported that they were never getting Mazzlegasm. I disabled to see whether it was an issue with the throttle or a more general one. I forgot to re-enable it. It should be back in the next version.

Been trying to convince MazzerUI and my working UI to get along...it's an uphill battle (I'm not even getting into the Bongos issue...finally gets written to work well with bar configurations but has the "you will align yourself MY way" built in, grrr -- even though I figured out how to work around it (size all, then move) I eventually gave up and replaced it so I could get a button layout that worked for me without damage to my bloodpressure). I've managed to patch my way around most of the issues and removed/disabled some of the more annoying mods (which aren't available for disablement in the mazzer ui config panels) and replaced some; however, I've run into a few questions...

1) Is there any way to turn off the insipid /yell when you first configure? Nothing so uncool as having your char /yell in the middle of a packed city something as absurd as that and getting 20 tells to STFU or 'welcome to my ignore list @#$@' *sigh* (No I don't intend to have to run it again but just in case I don't want to have to hide myself into an instance to do it)

2) Is there any way (yes, I'll even mod the .lua) to make the 'border turns red during combat" stop? Please??

3) From reading all the FAQs that don't answer this directly: is there actually any way to stop the mobile 3d? I don't care about resources as much as it's just...annoying. Every time I target a moth I want to scream. Just want to shut off the animation itself, a non-moving 3-d model is just peachy if we have to have the 3d :)

4) Hotspots in the UI. Love the concept, it's six kinds of brilliant; however, I don't like the mods that are attached to some of them. I gather there's no way to swap that out how those work w/o resorting to modding the .lua (which is fine, it's the price you pay for being picky about your mods) so...where might I go about doing this? (I'll take the responsibility for making it work, I just want to know where it is or if there's any caveats I should be aware of)

Thanks in advance (and for monitoring this rapidly growing thread)

Seriously, how do we get rid of this? I haven't seen this addressed and well, it's more than a little annoying and if someone took offense to it I could see Blizzard giving a time out for the comments.

There is no way to turn it completely off... and what part of MAZZLEGASM! is offensive? I suppose you can always just close your eyes while you click the Mazzify button?

People in this game find all sorts of things offensive, yelling out something that could annoy folks and does annoy folks may get reports issued on a person. A crappy GM may say that it is sexually explicit (sexual references) and give someone a 3-day game vacation.

I don't particularly find it offense. I find it annoying, it was funny the first time, having multiple mazzlegasms aren't my cup of tea though.

Yes, that was step 1, step 2 was turning it off in efficiency. It's not the random or event-based that bugs me, it's 6 models squirming on the screen while I'm trying to pay attention to the 50-odd mobs/people on the screen. I expect movement in the information-display interface to be "pay attention to me, critical info here" not "watch me flap my wings, I'm a moth" If I try to ignore it, I wind up missing things happening farther down in the UI that are really movement-to-attract-attention. I mean the 3d is cute and all but...

Parents of 10yrolds, namely -- not kidding, that was just one of the *****y /tells I got. Another was for me to keep my cybering to myself. Two /tells contained suggestions that are anatomically impossible. One asked me to pass along something very rude to Mazzle as apparently I wasn't the first to be yelling that.

Excuse me, Mazzle? It's your suggestion that I argue with people in /tells b/c a mod does something that's over-the-top? I've never seen a mod automatically yell at people in a way beyond my control -- without my knowledge, in fact -- and you say I now have to debate with these people? The point isn't that they're over-sensitive, the point is I have no warning about it before hand and nor control over it doing it or not.

I'm not offended by it -- I think it's daft but I'm not offended -- but I AM on a role-play server and it's hardly appropriate for any char I have to be yelling that.

If you don't want to take it out, fine, I can mod the localization file in the Mazzifier dir to nix the message. But don't tell me that on top of having my char do something I'm not in control of I then have to argue with people about what is/isn't appropriate because if your sensibilities. And that doesn't address the people who slammed me on /ignore b/c of it.

Ya know, I was pretty sanquine about it till your post there Mazzle.

Shouldn't you add a warning that a yelling and emoting, that will make your character look like an idiot, will take place before the mazzifying is carried out? I found it incredibly annoying, and became quite angry when I realised what the UI had done without me knowing/wanting it to happen.

An addon that takes control of my character without my consent is in my book completely unacceptable (throttle or no throttle). And having to hide in an instance in order to reconfigure seems completely pointless. Also, players on RP-servers will automatically be breaking the RP-policies when using MazzleUI.

Unless you have a really good reason for it to be there (except free advertising), I would not recommend anyone to use this UI because of that. So is there anyway you can justify it being there, except for giggles?

You did tell the AddOn to mazzify you did you not? :). The emote is simply part of the mazzification process. Did you know that every time you zone into a new zone, a message is sent out to the interface to change your channels and tell you where you are now? Did you request this information? Not everything needs to be exclusively 'I pressed the button and it happened' (thank god). While many people may not like it, there are so many more that actually sit back, remember it is just a game, and get a good chuckle out of it.

The yell on the mazzify, is actually much less 'intrusive' then many other UI compilations have been using for a long time. Take one example: have you ever been in a city, and all of a sudden someone emotes:
/me has entered the game.

This is actually coming from a UI compilation, and is their 'signature' that happens each and every time that person logs into the game.

The fact you feel you need to hide in an instance every time you configure your interface shows you really aren't into the spirit the UI brings. Try to lighten up a bit, realize it's just a game, and actually try to enjoy yourself a bit. You might find you actually enjoy it too lol.



This is completely untrue. You must not play on an RP realm as I do (where there are a great many MazzleUI users). The yell is quite RP safe, and in some cases, may even cause people to mistake you for an RP'er if they do not know what MazzleUI is.



It's not about the advertising. It's for the fun. The UI has a great deal of humor in it, as I'm sure you know from reading all of the FAQ entries? If you find this single event that happens only but once in the rare occasion that you actually must 'mazzify', then perhaps yeah, this UI is not for you. Nobody ever said you *had* to use it. If you don't like it, well, then, don't use it. I believe the ultimate philosophy Mazzle is trying to achieve here, is to make a UI compliation that many people can have fun with. 'Fun' being the operative word.

Let me ask you this, since you asked Mazzle why the yell is there... Why do you not like it? Or better yet, why do you abhor it so deeply you can rate the entire interface upon that single event? That's like saying... there's a smudge on the windshield of my new porche... I don't want it anymore.

This is the same attitude Blizzard sees all the time. People saying "I don't like what you did, so I'm gonna quit", and guess what? You see the same person a week, a month, and even a year later still complaining. You know what? If you don't like it, don't use it. Simple as that. Mazzle isn't making the UI to please any one person, and degrading or threatening him for any reason over it, will not make you heard (not that saying "I won't use it because" is a threat or anything lol). Want to be heard? Give well thought out, concise, and extremely viable reasons why something should be changed, and there's good chance Mazzle will at the very least consider it.

-TigerHeart

Hye Mazzle.

I would like to make a few suggestions. Seeing as how I am running at 1024x768 (1.3 Ratio), it is kinda hard to see my text due to the fact that it is in a little box on the left hand side of the screen.. And, personally, whispers are the most important. So I would like to recommend WIM (WoW Instant Messenger) This addon simply adds a little pop up box, kinda like a regular instant messenger (AIM, MSN, YIM, etc). Also, an all-in-one bag. I personally use ArkInventory, has alot of custom organization features and is very clean and memory efficient.

-Chris Kader
[email protected]

PS: As for Pockie going crazy over a Mazzlegasam: If you dont like it, dont use it. Simple. That is one of main and most popular features of the UI, and I am sure it can be disabled. So, no, this addon does not take control of your character without your consent. If you read all the Documentation before you install, like Mazzlefizz recommends, you will see that it is a feature. When you install the addon, you are basically saying "I read the documentation and understand all of it". If you are on an RP Server and you KNOW that it is against the rules, then dont use it and disable that feature. Simple. As for free advertising? lol Get a life, if is just for kick and giggles. What is wrong with that? WoW is a game. Get over it.

lol @ TigerHeart. We both posted the same thing at almost the same time. You must have just started it before me. If I would have known, I would not have posted. Sorry lol

That is probably the worst excuse ever. I told MazzleUI that I wanted it to mazzify, but I had no idea that I would start moaning, dancing and yelling. I am enjoying the game, but I have no wish for an addon to start doing things on my behalf - except making the game easier to play.

Only because other UI-compilations do similar things does not excuse MazzleUI's behaviour.

Now, trying to make fun of me and ridiculing me is not really helping your case.

I had no idea I was buying into a spirit. I thought I had downloaded a nice UI-mod, not a way of thinking about how the game should be played.

Right. I play on a RP-realm, and I have no idea how an "intense mazzlegasm" can be roleplay. But sure, I guess we have differenting views on "roleplay".

Again, I didn't think I was downloading a certain spirit. I know I don't have to use it, I was asking a question based upon my assumption on how an addon should (and should not) work. If we are dealing with an entire philosophy, I am not interested. Also, if you believe that people who do not adhere to this philosophy can't have fun and can't relax, I really don't want a part of it. You are acting incredibly arrogant here.

If the yell is just for fun, in other words "just for giggles", I won't use MazzleUI. Don't worry about it. I just wanted an answer, and I think I got one. It's there because you think it's funny and you don't really care about your end-users.

If the Porche, by default, yelled "I just had an intense porchegazm" every time I changed something in the engine, I have a feeling you would see a lot of similar criticism against it.

I thought I was. I found it unacceptable, and wanted to know why it is there. I got it confirmed by you that it's just there for giggles. What I did not ask for was your arrogance and rudeness against me.

And seeing the other reply, that came during me writing this, I can tell that the only thing I will get is a "lol get a life". I hope that perhaps Mazzlefizz himself can answer and be nice at the same time. Even a "it's just for fun, it's there to stay, we like it" would be enough.

I do admit to not reading the documentation beforhand. My mistake.

Had I read about it in advance, I would've skipped installing the mod in the first place.

See... As some of the employees at my work will say "Deuces!". lol Good luck with another UI, and sorry to hear that you are so into WoW you cannot use a very good, well put together UI. I, myself have played on many RP realms, and to be honest, none of them look, feel, or play different as any other realms. People act the same, Spame Trade, LFG (Before 2.0), and all that other good stuff. And to be honest, I really dont think RP is alive as much as it was when WoW first started (My opinion, dont want to be flamed on this, I know how some of you RP'ers are).


-Chris Kader
[email protected]

You are just assuming everyone understands lua-code here. That might not be the case, no matter how simple it might seem to you.

I'm not talking about myself here. Not everyone is as computer-adept as you and (to a lesser extent) me. I know a lot of my friends who would just look at his addon-folder, sigh and then uninstall the whole thing.

And why should you have to hack the code in the first place? A lot of the MuzzleUI is user-friendly, with a lot of menues and things to tweak. But for removing an emote that one does not like you have to either turn off the whole UI or hack the code? Sounds weird to me.

I am no longer talking about myself and MazzleUI, I am no longer interested in using it. But I still believe that the criticism is in order. I am still waiting for a proper, non-defensive reply to my original question.

You've had different responses to your original question; no, there doesn't need to be a disclaimer. You want feature X removed because you don't like it. You don't want to use MazzleUI because of feature X. OK - don't use it. But essentially your claim is that you don't like feature X so Mazzle must provide a way for you to not use feature X (and that way must be acceptable to you) otherwise you won't use his addon. That to me is pretty extreme. There's no way that Mazzle can create all of the options to support this type of argument.

Also, you've taken it an even further extreme in which the only person you'll allow a fix to the problem from is Mazzle. I've told you how you can go about fixing the issue you don't like but that's not an acceptable solution because you "feel" you shouldn't have to mess with those types of things in order to get the behavior that you want. That's unfair and creates expectations from Mazzle that can never be met.

There's obviously a reason why I went looking in the code for where this happens, I didn't like it. However, I think that there is some great value in this addon as a whole and to not use it because of one thing seems a bit silly to me, especially given the amount of work you had to do to even get it installed properly.

We're talking about two emotes and a yell here. It's not a huge part of the code - and, as stated before, most of the UI is quite user-friendly. But turning off an intrusive yell? No, that you have to fix yourself.

This is my only complaint with MazzleUI. I have not requested any major coding to be taken out, any addon to be added. I just thought that taking control of the player character, making them yell about "instant mazzlegasm" and moan suggestivly was unacceptable behavior from an addon. I can turn off a lot of the stuff in the UI, why not this?

To me, people who really likes the UI has gone into complete defensive-mode. I am sorry, but I don't like it as much as you guys. I respect Mazzlefizz for what he has done, it is VERY impressive (and I have stated that before). Wonderful work, absolutely extraordinary. Now why is there an intrusive yell and emote every time I mazzify it and why do I have to hack the lua-code to stop doing that?

And me not fixing it? I am still not talking about myself anymore. I am talking about people who are not used to using computers in the same way that you and me are. I am talking about my friends who would install the UI, notice the yelling/emoting, and instantly uninstall the whole thing. I am talking about the people who have no idea that they can even open the lua-files. I am talking about people who don't like addons to take control of their game in ways they don't want.

I download an addon for a certain function. If it does anything besides that function I usually delete it again, unless it is something I realised that I've been missing. Period. Like I would treat any program.

Yelling and moaning suggestivly is not part of that. It's intrusive for a lot of end-users that, like me, don't buy into the spirit of MazzleUI. That was my gripe, that was my criticism, and I wanted a straight answer why it was in there. I didn't want people going on the defensive, I didn't want people to tell me to "relax man, have a chair", I didn't want to be told that I have to hack the lua-files myself to get it out. I want to know why it is in there.

I'll just quote myself, my very first post on this forum:

That's all I wanted to know, from the devteam.

I am sorry if I insulted your favorite mod. I am really sorry if you feel like you have to defend it. That was not my intention. I catched onto one small part of the UI that I think is not working, that I believe is unacceptable behavior by a mod. That's it.

This has obviously been blown completely out of proportion.

By yourself. This topic has been brought up other times on other threads where people simply go "I don't like this, but i'll live with it because i like the ui".

Personally, i think the yell is hilarious. I want her to keep it in. What makes your wants any more important then the devs and other users?

Seriously, if you cant handle a emote every time you mazzle, then don't use it. Mazzle is not going to bend backwards for you.

I didn't realize Mazzle Inc had gone public, from which you are apparently the majority shareholder.

Ok, all joking aside...what's the big deal? You didn't pay for the mod did you? Just don't use it if you don't like it. I would much rather see Mazzle spend her time working on bug fixes or feature/mod additions that benefit the entire community instead of removing something that such a miniscule portion of the user base finds annoying, regardless of how trivial a task it may be.

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I hope you know that the moaning suggestively Blizzard has as part of the standard set of emotes. /moan or /moan *character name* will prompt the same responses. Its not a unique emote.

Although...I'm used to my boyfriend using it on me. *grin*

As for Mazzle responding to you...to be honest, his primary beta tester HAS responded to you, in a polite and friendly manner. Everyone I have seen on the forums who HAS complained about the mazzlegasm, has been told the same thing, with references as to how to fix it if the person asks. What more could any user ask for?

No, it has been blown out of proportions by the people who obviously couldn't take the criticism. I air what I feel about it and get told to "relax" and that "it's just a game". A person doesn't like something in your favorite UI - just deal with it, don't go all fanboy over each other. I thought criticism was an integral part of the process of building a good app.

I am not saying that Mazzle should bend backwards. For the love of...! All I did was criticise it, think it was out of bounds, and that I would like to know why it was there.

And I know the /moan-emote is a standard emote. That's not the point. The point is that the UI did it without me wanting to. The point is that the UI chatted as if it was me. You don't seem to understand what I am getting at. Some people might find it hilarious, others intrusive. I can see why you want it there, I just don't like the idea that it happens without the end user having any say in the matter (except hacking the lua-files, we've been down that road). Like me when I first experienced it. Just calm down and listen to what I am saying about it.

Never mind, obviously there is no point to this discussion. You like it, I didn't. I wanted it removed, you didn't. I wanted a straight answer, all I got was people too busy to defend it to give me one.

Good luck with the UI, Mazzle. I can only hope you take the emote out at some point. Until then, take care.

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For accuracy purposes, this is a bad comparison. In Necrosis, it is simple to disable the whacky pet comments. I don't use your UI, but it seems to be that your "Mazzlegasm" (LOL!!) can't be disabled. Then again, who would want to disable any type of *gasm. :)

True, but even if you could not disable Necrosis' rp'ing comments, the conclusion I made would be exactly the same. If you don't like what the add-on does, don't use it.

Was unexpected when my char started yelling/moaning/dancing in SW, spat coffee all over my screen.

Was great :D

I find the whole Mazzlegasm thing hilarious, part of the humor and attitude that is the very soul of MazzleUI. I suppose it's suggestive, but it's no more than that -- and as you say, there are certainly aspects of WoW that are far more objectionable.

Evil Gemminie says: "After I conquer the world, mazzlegasms will be mandatory!"

*hands Origin a towel*

Personally I think this is a moot argument. As many others have stated... if an individual finds that much wrong with a UI then do not use it. If you want it changed... change it. If your friends want it changed... but do not know how, then you do it or tell them how. I think that is one of the most unique and funny things in the UI. For those people giving you tells... perhaps it should be them on your ignore list instead of you. They need to loosen up some. There is a lot worse said and done in WoW than the word or emote associated with this UI. Here is something else to think about... some of those worse things have likely been done by your very own 10 year old...

personally i've taken to just changing the yell to a say

but i like it overall, was a shock the first time i used it lol!

already had two mazzlegasms on my server despite changing it (forgot to change on both computers lol) and noone's said a word

basically if you don't like it, you clearly weren't laughing while reading the FAQ and i'm not sure you quite get teh spirit of the mod, and as some helpful individuals have pointed out look up some stuff on lua coding and fix it yourself if you really feel you must

honestly as this addon catches on (well, becomes ubiquitous) you'll be just another person installing mazzleui ;)

Evil Gemminie for prez!!

lol good point that one, RTFM kids, it's not just an acronym, it's a way of life :)

sometimes i think everyone needs to take this game a little less seriously :cool:

my 25 pence
 

just a few things to say..... then im going to bed cause im mazzle'd out.

1: READ THE README FILE CONTAINED WITHIN THE MOD ITSELF OR EVEN THE INSTALL NOTES ON THE WOWINTERFACE PAGE FOR THE UI!!!!!
I f people actually read this sort of information then there would more than likely not need to be a FAQ or "im gonna whine cause I can" thread......

2: People really need to read forums for an addon to see if they are either A) going to like it. B) they are going to dislike something about it. C) They should wait before installing it to see if there are any ongoing bugs that could affect their gameplay.

3: EVERY person i have been near when i have mazzified the 20-30+ chars I use mazzle on has come running up asking what it was all about.... or saying it was funny..... not ONCE have i gotten moaned / whined at. The only bad thing i got was a note that someone was now ignoring me! lol. but if they cant take a joke and have fun IN A GAME!!!!!!! then i dont wanna talk to them.

4: I wouldnt change much in mazzle at all...... its the most near perfect UI in the entirity of WOW..... keep up the fine work Mazzle & Co.

The definitive answer:

I dislike the mazzlegasm. If he wants to put the (irritating to me)mazzlegasm in there, ITS HIS MOD. Don't like it? DON"T USE IT! It's not like you PAID FOR IT! No one is FORCING your to use it. GET OVER IT. Seriously.

Now the gnome theme is an entirely different issue. We need to organize hunger strikes to get him to ditch the detestable gnomes. The only good gnome is a dead gnome that you orchestrated the death of by mobs so there is a 10% durability hit. Having to stare at some ridiculous looking abomination is really too much to take.

FOR THE HORDE!!

I for one really liked it. and the first time I Mazzyfied, I got a tell from someone asking if it was that intense :P I laughed so much!

It's a nice surprise, but I agree not everyone likes those. but it's so funny ;)

:p :p I think that anyone that thinks this is a horrible thing is a stick in the mud. On all 15 chars that I have... I have had some wink at me, some ask what that was, one ask if I needed a smoke after that, a few cheers, and more then a few giggles and whispers of omg how did you do that.

Not once have I been told to stfu, never have I heard Reported or lame or anything bad. I think that some folk may have been over reacting because they were caught off guard. And trust me if anyone told me I was iggied after a mazzlegasm... I would laugh and say good... stick in the muds are doing me a favor...

So I am with the evil cute one.... mazzelgasms for all!!!

First of all, thanks Mazzle and the testers for the large amount of work they put into this compilation. I'd been looking forward to trying it for some time was very excited to put it to the test. From the amount of playing around I've done so far you have put together a very solid and feature rich UI.

Anyway.

I too was a tad disappointed when I saw the mazzlegasm thing. While not particularily offensive, it annoyed me because I am a control freak, and control over my character & UI is the reason I was interested in MazzleUI in the first place.

I was even more disappointed in reading the forums to see a complete lack of sympathy for the folks who are, for whatever reason, offended or likewise disappointed by it. Mazzle, you've done great work here, there's no need to make it a big deal for those who object to some small detail of it. Especially when the fix is so easy.

I am in control of my UI, and not the other way around.

OMG YES!!!! Oh please..... *giggles* My little gnome lock and mage would so love to see this... :p

And to Dorlf, I dont think Mazz is comeing down on anyone.... this has been in the mod from the begining. Like most said no one is forced to use the mod but Mazz is not going to take it out, but feel free to change it. Like you did. Personally I have had a blast with it and have gotten some really funny responses to it.

Yet you edit a post that contains helpful information for others. If it was not a big deal, then why remove the information? Very hypocritical and unprofessional if you ask me. Just my 2 cents.

dorlf, I encourage you to post your fix somewhere where it can be easily found and not tampered with.

Edit: I should clarify, I don't mean to be disrespectful to your vision of your UI and it's creation/functions during use, but withholding information from users is not right at all.

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I have honestly waited for the release of this mod. Ever sence the 2.0 client was release no mods have touched my toon. This ui is very important to esensal game play and i like the mazzlegasum thing its so funny thank mazz and friends for the time you spent makeing and changing mods. <3 ty

Because it is four in the morning and I decided to read this entire thread, I'm going to butt in and give my 2 cents.

I like the mazzlegasm (... should that be capitalized?). I think it's great. I'm not a fan of /yell, as I am not a screamer, but it was still very entertaining. Really, after clicking "Mazzify" and the UI reload, it felt like a *gasm of some kind :) My jaw dropped, breathing and heart-rate increased, and there may, or may not, have been excessive warmth in my loins.

I like the throttle idea. Maybe varying levels of mazzlegasms? Or perhaps a %-chance to have a screaming mazzlegasm?

I am loving MazzleUI, and would like to thank Mazzle and associates for all the work put into the development. Extra special thanks for all the thought that went into making a unified and effecient UI. The above suggestions are only that: suggestions. I am a fan of the mazzlegasm, and clearly Mazzle has strong feelings about it, but so many people are complaining, I just wanted to help the situation if I could.

All of that being said, I leave you with my final thought on the matter: I have control over my UI, and you have control over yours.

I can't believe people are complaining about this.

If you don't like the UI, don't use it. Simple solution to your problem.

What's that? You want to be able to use the UI without having this happen? I suggest you get to coding then.

Not sure if this has already been asked, but do you get mad when your chat channels change when you go from one zone to another? You are not in control in that situation.

It's not like this UI has your toon yelling this every 30 seconds or everytime you attack.

wgbknight - Terrible example and flawed logic.

I expect and want my chat channels to change when I change zones. I choose my addons and UIs to serve very specific purposes. If an addon doesn't do what I need from it, I dont use it. If it does something I don't want it to, I either fix it or don't use it. And no, the Mazzlegasm thing only fires when you reload through the mazzifier, so it isn't happening every 30 seconds or whatever. As previously mentioned I'm an extreme tweaker and am still resetting the mazzifier to try and get it perfect, so the mazzlegasm thing would have really gotten to me at this point (the choke mazz mentioned earlier would have alleviated some of that).

A better example would be something akin to downloading an MP3 player on your computer that blasts funkytown during the install process. I love MP3's and I even like funkytown, but if I wanted it to play I would have done it myself.

That being said, its the "if you dont like it, don't use it" mentality that bothers me the most. MazzleUI is awesome, and being annoyed by some bells and whistles aspect of it would be a terrible reason to not use the addon. It detracts from the community and the impact of Mazzle's work.

it is true that it is such a small thing to get over and say: wow, I won't use your addOn because it made me scream at the end...but if it would've been announced clearly in the package, wouln't it alleviate some of the problem? MazzleUI "Now with Mazzlegasms!" :p

Though I find it difficult to understand why it would offend anyone/get you banned, I respect their opinion, but I'm asking a simple question: why is it that offending (even for a control freak) I mean, it's basically fifteen seconds at best of dancing, with a yell (wich is anyway overused for a lot worse than that. remember SW before the Guild recruitment channel? :P) one time. I agree though that if you have to Mazzify a lot for the initial configuration/tweaking, it would get on my nerves. but hey, a throttle is coming for that ;)

as for me, I definitly buy into the "Mazz" experience, and this fits perfectly with the mood. but that's for me :P

It is an interesting-looking UI, and I can see the benefits to using it.. However I tried it, found it didn't suit me.

I could post a laundry list of reasons as to why, but what's the point of that? Will my post change things to suit ME? not likely. Mazzle likes it, and (s)he has the final say on the matter.

Excellent UI, just not my style.

Well I installed the UI and found it to be one of the best in the way it sets itself up. But now I am about to uninstall and go back to my ui. Just a bit to much for me. I find it all a bit distracting from the game itself. It looks great but during game play it tends to get in the way. I will also join in with other and say the little yell and dance it does on install and reload is a bit silly. I do not want to have my toon do things that I do not want it to do, so as in Mazzlefizz's suggestion I will remove it.

Easiest way to avoid yell/emote if it bothers you - do it while dead. I just hellfire my lock down and then configure, or you could go naked and run into something.

I have no problems with the 'gasm and my wife loved it when she saw my character do it's second Mazzlegasm. In fact, I think she sabotaged her current UI setup just so she could get me to install the Mazzle UI. :p For those naysayers who dislike the emotes, make the changes in a vacant spot (Azeroth is pretty deserted about now), change the LUA code, or discontinue your use of this mod. Putting demands on the author or it's testers to make changes for you or give explanations as to why it's in the UI will not endear you to those people. And if it's all about control anyway - go make your own UI compilation.

I cannot believe this is still being discussed... For all of those that are saying... "I just would have liked to have known..."

It clearly says it at the bottom of the UI information... Please read before complaining about something in plain sight.

Round 4 for Mazzle - WOOT WOOT

let me start out by saying, Mazzle, you've done an outrageous job with the mob. Im impressed 100 times more then with the first release.

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Now, I cannot believe half of you imcompetent retards, doing nothing for a year, but begging for a release date, begging to be on the BT Group, and now that it is released, and you are able to use it, you have nothing to do then, to moan and groan about this and that. If you dont like it, dont use it. Stop screwing up something that so many other of us, have been following up on, and enjoy using, as well as appreciate, the hard work, and impressive thought put into this mod.

Im sure I speak for everyone here, when i saw, "literally" noone cares about you or your complaints that are being given to Mazzle. After the hard work, and the time, that Mazzle has put into the game, all you have to do is sit and complain about everything, that was done, to make you people happy. Its pathetic, that none of you have a life, other then this game. Grow up and find something to do other then complain.

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It is incredibly easy to turn off. I love it myself, so I am not going to spoil it for anyone.

EDIT: Forgot to add, great job with the UI. Keep up the great work.

I fully support mazzlegasms!

Mazzlegasmd at least twice in Shattrath the other night during setup and received no tells at all (maybe some reports, but I dont really care about that). I actually wanted to get some tells so I could spread the amazing goodness of this UI.

/signed, Mazzlegasms for life.