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Version: 2.3.9
by: VgerAN [More]

Pawn helps you find upgrades for your gear and tell which of two items is better for your spec. Start with built-in advice from Ask Mr. Robot, or customize Pawn's stat weights to have it suggest items based on your favorite class guide or simulator. Pawn can help you decide whether it's better to use the cloak with 500 mastery or the one with 450 crit—whether you're just starting out, or you're an advanced player who plans out gear upgrades and regularly simulates and evaluates performance.

Language support

Pawn works with English, French, German, Italian, Korean, Portuguese, Russian, Spanish (European and Latin American), Simplified Chinese, and Traditional Chinese. Unlike most addons, Pawn's language has to match the language you play WoW in.

Staying in touch

For fastest assistance with Pawn, check the official thread at Curse. You can also become a fan of Vger on Facebook and get updates of new versions and stuff like that. You can also leave questions or comments there.

Getting started

If you're new to Pawn, don't worry—Pawn will automatically set itself up to give you advice based on math done by the experts at Ask Mr. Robot. Just watch for Pawn's green arrows. If you decide you want to go further, there are a lot of ways that you can customize Pawn, by tracking multiple specs at once, importing custom stat weights, and more.

Found a bug?

If you think you might have found a bug, just leave a comment here. In addition to a description of the problem, please make sure to include: (1) the language that you use Pawn and WoW in, (2) the specific items that don't work as expected, and (3) your class and spec if you're using the built-in (not custom) stat weights. Screenshots are usually very helpful as well.

Version 2.3.9

Additional updates to the Simplified Chinese translation from wolfcon.

Version 2.3.8

WoW Classic: Now supports Portuguese.
WoW Classic: Now supports Simplified Chinese, thanks to wolfcon.
Some updates to the Russian translation, courtesy of drcrazy777.

Version 2.3.7

WoW Classic: Now supports Spanish and German.

Version 2.3.6

WoW Classic: the Compare tab will now refresh itself after a moment to make sure it has the latest stats from your items.

Version 2.3.5

/pawn compare can now compare two items at once: /pawn compare left 12345 right 67890
Fixed a bug introduced in Pawn 2.3.0 that made it impossible to import a scale with a class and spec specified the first time you tried.
Fixed problems with baguette damage in French WoW.

Version 2.3.4

WoW Classic: Now supports French in addition to English.
Fixed a problem introduced in WoW 8.2.5 where Pawn wouldn't recognize numbers 1,000 or larger in the Russian version of WoW—not the same one as for French and Spanish!

Version 2.3.3

Added a new Pawn slash command: /pawn compare. You can use this as an alternate way to put items into Pawn's Compare UI. For example, "/pawn compare left 16795" puts Arcanist's Crown into the left slot of Pawn's Compare tab.
The compare command accepts item IDs, "item:12345:0:0" strings, or full shift+clicked item links ("/pawn compare [Arcanist's Crown]").
If your PC hasn't downloaded the stats for an item yet, the command might not do anything the first time. Try it again (Enter, Shift+Up, Enter) after a second and it should work the second time.
Addon authors can use "PawnUI_SetCompareItemAndShow(1, 16795)" to accomplish the same thing. (1 for left, 2 for right.)
Fixed a problem where armor was being ignored in French WoW.
WoW Classic: Worked around a problem where Pawn would sometimes not see all of the stats on an item (typically, the "green stats").
This workaround will result in slightly lower performance on WoW Classic. I'm still investigating a better long-term solution.
For the curious, it's because the game client would get a partial list of stats for the item, then Pawn would do its calculations on that, and then shortly afterward the game would get the rest of the stats for the item, but at that point Pawn didn't know that it needed to re-scan the item, so it was evaluating the item based on just the first batch of stats it got.
WoW Classic: Removed "All Resistances", which does not appear to exist on any items in Classic.
WoW Classic: Added support for "of Concentration" items.
Russian and Chinese: For consistency, Pawn's "debug" and "backup" slash commands are now always in English like they are for all other languages.

Version 2.3.2

Fixed a problem introduced in WoW 8.2.5 where Pawn wouldn't recognize numbers 1,000 or larger in the French and European Spanish versions of WoW.
I introduced a system that will make Pawn a little easier to translate in the future, and make it more resilient to changes in the way that non-English versions of WoW display numbers.
WoW Classic: Added support for ranged weapon DPS, "of Defense" items, and probably more stuff I forgot about.

Version 2.3.1

WoW Classic: Added support for "of Eluding" items.

Version 2.3

Consider this version a full release for Battle for Azeroth and a beta for WoW Classic. WoW Classic is supported for English only in this version. Pawn does not include any built-in scales for WoW Classic, so you'll need to create your own scales from scratch, or import them. Not all Pawn features exist on WoW Classic, and some features are incomplete.

There are no new features for Battle for Azeroth in this version. If you run into any issues on the live/retail realms, you can return to 2.2.x and shouldn't miss out on anything.
The "show item level upgrades" feature will default to OFF in Classic. (But, if you've already used one of the earlier versions of Pawn on Classic, that option may already be on, so turn it off manually if you don't want it.)
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [BUG] Sockets counting Twice

Okay, maybe in the next version, then. I'll make it per-scale unless it looks like it's going to be a bunch of extra work to do it that way (probably not).
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Re: Re: Re: Re: [BUG] Sockets counting Twice

Yes, that's pretty much it. I have an offense scale, and a stamina scale. I think adding an "always use the correct gem colors for each socket" option would solve the issue for most cases. Even better if it is a per-scale option.

Originally posted by VgerAN
I see, so in addition to any scales you use to determine item value, you've also got a scale that just sums up all of the stamina on an item, even though you're not maximizing stamina. You don't actually use that scale to select gear, but rather just to know at a glance how much stamina you're going to get from an item. So, you'd want Pawn to be smart with your other scales (or maybe you don't have any other scales?), but not that special stamina scale.

Does that sound accurate? I'm just trying to understand what you want a little better, so I can plan for future versions. If the above is all true, then if I added a "always use the correct gem colors for each socket" option, a scenario such as yours would need that option to be set individually per-scale, not for the whole character, which is something I hadn't considered.
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Re: Re: Re: [BUG] Sockets counting Twice

I see, so in addition to any scales you use to determine item value, you've also got a scale that just sums up all of the stamina on an item, even though you're not maximizing stamina. You don't actually use that scale to select gear, but rather just to know at a glance how much stamina you're going to get from an item. So, you'd want Pawn to be smart with your other scales (or maybe you don't have any other scales?), but not that special stamina scale.

Does that sound accurate? I'm just trying to understand what you want a little better, so I can plan for future versions. If the above is all true, then if I added a "always use the correct gem colors for each socket" option, a scenario such as yours would need that option to be set individually per-scale, not for the whole character, which is something I hadn't considered.


Originally posted by obuw
Ah yes, now it makes sense.

Well, wonderful. Problem is I would never socket a blue gem in a yellow slot since I'm dps. So it's being too clever for my taste.

I guess I'll just stick with ratingbuster for stamina values.
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Re: Re: [BUG] Sockets counting Twice

Originally posted by VgerAN
Hmm, I'm playing around with Pawn and I haven't been able to reproduce any bug. I believe that the behavior you're seeing below is the new expected behavior for Pawn 0.9 and 1.0. Pawn is determining that the socket bonus on that item isn't worthwhile enough to justify putting a yellow gem in the yellow socket, so it's "using" blue gems instead. (In this case, 2x blue > blue + yellow + 3 agility.) Previous versions of Pawn weren't smart enough to notice situations where it's better to socket gems "incorrectly."

Does that make sense?
Ah yes, now it makes sense.

Well, wonderful. Problem is I would never socket a blue gem in a yellow slot since I'm dps. So it's being too clever for my taste.

I guess I'll just stick with ratingbuster for stamina values.
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Re: [BUG] Sockets counting Twice

Hmm, I'm playing around with Pawn and I haven't been able to reproduce any bug. I believe that the behavior you're seeing below is the new expected behavior for Pawn 0.9 and 1.0. Pawn is determining that the socket bonus on that item isn't worthwhile enough to justify putting a yellow gem in the yellow socket, so it's "using" blue gems instead. (In this case, 2x blue > blue + yellow + 3 agility.) Previous versions of Pawn weren't smart enough to notice situations where it's better to socket gems "incorrectly."

Does that make sense?


Originally posted by obuw
When calculating unenchanted values, pawn counts the gem sockets twice if there are gems socketed.

Ex:

[Belt of the Black Eagle] gives 20 Stamina, I have socketed it with a [Brutal Tanzanite] for another 6 Stamina. My STA scale also has 6 points for blue sockets.

Enchanted value: 26. Unenchanted value: 32.


I also reported this in the trenchrats forum.
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[BUG] Sockets counting Twice

When calculating unenchanted values, pawn counts the gem sockets twice if there are gems socketed.

Ex:

[Belt of the Black Eagle] gives 20 Stamina, I have socketed it with a [Brutal Tanzanite] for another 6 Stamina. My STA scale also has 6 points for blue sockets.

Enchanted value: 26. Unenchanted value: 32.


I also reported this in the trenchrats forum.
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Pawn 1.0 is out!

Pawn 1.0 has been released! It's a worthwhile upgrade for anyone who uses Pawn, especially if you're on a version earlier than 0.9.
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Originally posted by VgerAN
For premade scales, check out the unofficial forums here:

http://pawnmod.trenchrats.com/
I will try out the Frost-PvE build listed on the site. I'm not mathematically inclined enough to try and sort out appropriate values myself but I do like that someone has a reasonable idea of what end-game raiding stats might be. I'll give this a shot.
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For premade scales, check out the unofficial forums here:

http://pawnmod.trenchrats.com/

Also, for certain classes, check out the "sample scales" document that comes with Pawn. It seems to me that melee DPS classes are the luckiest; I know of a lot of common valuation systems, like various forms of AEP, and Emmerald's feral druid gear lists. I don't know of any commonly-accepted valuation systems for casters, so if you're a caster, the forums are probably your best bet, and you'll probably want to do some tweaking from there.

You'll probably find yourself wanting to tweak any scale you find; unlike Warsong Gulch (shudder), premade is not always the best. Pawn will hopefully make that (sort of) easy for you.
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Is there a scale for each class available, or would that have to be custom made from scratch? I'd be interested in finding a rating for each class.

Also, a "copy" feature would be very nice.
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Yeah. Sounds like you want a second scale. For example, as a shaman, in my PVP scale, I value stamina at 1.5, but in my PVE scale, I value it at .7 or .8 or so. Along the same lines, my PVE scale values MP5 at 3.75, but my PVP scale values it at 1. (I may increase that a bit as 11,000 mana doesn't last very long against a priest's drain, and it would be nice to have mana after the first minute of the battle. ) I also have a third "hybrid" scale for when I'm just soloing, and a fourth "elemental" scale for if I ever decide to respec. Pawn shows all four values on items I come across, so I can easily see that the weapon that just dropped would be an upgrade for PVP for not for PVE.

You can create a second scale by clicking the "New empty" or "New default" button. Or, if you want to use your current scale as a starting point, there's no Copy button (I'll add one someday), but you can achieve the same effect by exporting the scale, then renaming it, and then importing the scale tag. Then, when you set values for stats, just make sure that you've chosen the scale you want to work with first. If you give them different colors, it can be easier to tell them apart at a glance.

Hope that helps!
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I really do like this mod, and constantly rely on the stats given and then make an educated choice. However, seeing as how PvP gear and PvE gear are designed for two different play styles, would it be prudent to have a Pawn value defined by the given PvP or PvE gear?

I guess what I'm trying to find out is, if I'm wearing gear that is PvE oriented and I'm checking out someone's Gladiator gear, the Pawn value is usually higher than what I'm wearing. This value may be askewed, however, in light that higher stamina may not be a suitable substitute for the loss of obviously PvE bonuses (which aren't on PvP gear, notably caster).

Am I making any sense here?
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Okay, I think I have somewhat of a better picture of what you're asking for now. Most likely the next thing I'll be working on in Pawn is a way to have Pawn read through all of the gear that you're wearing and produce totals, so if you decide you want to write an add-on like this, that should make it easier.
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The idea is to provide a tool to define scales quickly based on what you wear now. In that, it agrees with the design tenet that an item's value is only defined by the scale. The product of the tool is a scale, used like any scale defined by a user.


The stats merging part may be the cause of the confusion, but it is not the core of the idea. You could forget it altogether and the concept and the basic implementation would the same.


Conceptually, the idea is to generate a figerprint (or histogram or profile) of your gear that you can compare to other scales so see how much and in which way gear set are different. Every scale generated agrees completely with a gear setup, you compare two scales to see how they disagree, so in a way, you compare two gear setup.
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Thanks for the suggestion. After reading your post I'm not sure that I really have a good idea of what you're requesting, but it doesn't really sound like Pawn is what you want. One of the core design tenets of Pawn is that the value for a given item never changes if the scale doesn't change, regardless of what level you are, what class you are, or who's looking at it. It sounds like your idea makes the value of items change depending on what other items you have, or have equipped.
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