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10.2.7

Pawn

Version: 2.9.4

by: VgerAN [More]

Find upgrades, do more damage, win.

Pawn helps you find upgrades for your gear and tell which of two items is better for your spec. Start with built-in advice from Ask Mr. Robot, or customize Pawn's stat weights to have it suggest items based on your favorite class guide or simulator. Pawn can help you decide whether it's better to use the cloak with 500 mastery or the one with 450 crit—whether you're just starting out, or you're an advanced player who plans out gear upgrades and regularly simulates and evaluates performance.

Getting started

If you're new to Pawn, don't worry—Pawn will automatically set itself up to give you advice based on math done by the experts at Ask Mr. Robot (or, on Classic, HawsJon). Just watch for Pawn's green arrows. If you decide you want to go further, there are a lot of ways that you can customize Pawn, by tracking multiple specs at once, importing custom stat weights, and more.

Language support

Pawn now works with all languages on both live/retail and Classic. It's possible that you might run into stats that Pawn doesn't recognize from time to time when playing on non-English clients—if you think that Pawn's not calculating something right, put an item into the Compare tab and see if it lists all of the stats there. If something's missing, let me know which item and which language, and I should be able to get it fixed!

Staying in touch

Become a fan of Vger on Facebook and get updates of new versions and stuff like that. You can also leave questions or comments there if you don't have an account on this site. (I typically respond to questions much more quickly on Facebook or Curse.)

Found a bug?

If you think you might have found a bug, just leave a comment here. In addition to a description of the problem, please make sure to include: (1) the language that you use Pawn and WoW in, (2) whether it's live/retail or Classic, (3) the specific items that don't work as expected, and (4) your class and spec if you're using the built-in (not custom) stat weights. Screenshots are usually very helpful as well.

Incompatible with...

Pawn will not work with Titan Panel Artifact Power or Combat Numbers Separator. Those addons change item tooltips and will cause Pawn to give bad advice. It's also been reported that using Pawn with TradeSkillMaster can cause the game to crash or hang.

Version 2.9.4

Cataclysm Classic: Cogwheel sockets on engineering goggles will now be considered in the item's value like any other gem socket.
Cataclysm Classic: Fixed a bug that caused gems with bad secondary stats to be valued more highly than they should have been (it was calculating things as if you could reforge the gem's bad stat into something better). The bug shouldn't have affected the values of existing items unless you were using gems that are bad for your spec.

Version 2.9.3

Cataclysm Classic: Fixed a problem where the "track for each scale (advanced)" option could cause an error.
Cataclysm Classic: Pawn will no longer display a warning when logging in if you play in French.

Version 2.9.2

Cataclysm Classic: When visiting an Arcane Reforger, Pawn will now display advice on how to reforge the item to maximize its power. (You can turn this off with the "show reforge advisor" option.)
Cataclysm Classic: Pawn's Compare tab will now show you how much an item's score can be improved by reforging it (assuming you make the change that Pawn suggests).
Cataclysm Classic: Pawn will now take reforging into account when determining an item's score and whether or not it's an upgrade.

Version 2.9.1

Cataclysm Classic: Pawn will now recommend the proper gems based on the new colors and stats of existing gems.
Cataclysm Classic: Fixed a bug that caused a few stat weights to get reset to 0 when editing in the Weights tab and then reloading.
Cataclysm Classic: Added support for all of the new Cataclysm gems, which Pawn will start recommending as you get Cataclysm gear.
Fixed a bug that caused gems to always appear as upgrades.

Version 2.9.0

Cataclysm Classic: Added basic support for Cataclysm Classic. The following important work is not yet done:
Updated stat weights (if you know of a good source, please let me know!)
Reforging support
I'm not playing Classic, so I'll need your help pointing out remaining things that are broken!

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06-21-09, 05:53 AM
Coneko A Kobold Labourer Forum posts: 0 File comments: 20 Uploads: 2	Would you consider implementing a second tuple of comparison slots in the compare tab? It would be useful for comparing multiple item choices, both for the same slot for different specs, or for different slots that require the same resources. Some examples: Comparing T8 shoulders, both healer and dps versions, versus my current shoulders of both specs, to know which I should get with the token. If the healer version is a very small upgrade and the dps version is a huge upgrade, I might want to get the dps shoulders even though it's for my offspec. Comparing the items you can craft with runed orbs with the items I have currently for both slots, so I know which item to spend my runed orbs on. Comparing items equipped in the same slot for different characters, with a third item, to decide whom it would be a bigger upgrade for. Handy when assigning loot through a loot council. One would only need 3 slots in this case, but having 2 sets of 2 would probably be easier if one wanted to select two different scales. Comparing the items separately isn't a big deal, but if the change is easy enough to implement, it should be worth it. I'm sure many people would like it for at least the third reason.

06-11-09, 02:55 PM

Purity

A Deviate Faerie Dragon

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Re: Equipement Manager

Originally posted by AnElk
With the introduction of Equipment Manager, I'm no longer using Outfitter. But I am missing the tooltip tag that told me what set the particular item was a part of. Could this be made to work with the Equipment Manager?
Found myself running around with 3 pieces of gear that I no longer used, wasting bag space....

You might want to try the addon "ItemSetChecker" by Yivry . I found it on curse and works perfectly. It's an addon that adds the blizzequipset name into the tooltip for you. I got it for the exact reason you said....to get rid of unused items in my bags.

Also, I use Arkinventory with a rule itemset()? that just seperates all my sb items used in gear sets from the stuff I can sell.

Goodluck!

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06-09-09, 12:00 PM
VgerAN A Cyclonian Forum posts: 40 File comments: 253 Uploads: 6	That "used in outfit" line on the tooltip came from Outfitter, not Pawn. I still find Outfitter vastly more useful than the built-in equipment manager so I haven't given up on it yet. I don't have any plans to add a similar feature to Pawn; there just isn't really any overlap between what Pawn does and that feature, so any other mod could just as easily do it. It's intended right now that the Compare window only compares base, unenchanted items, without taking enchantments and gems into consideration. I may add an option in the future to include those enhancements, but there are a lot of other features with higher priority, such as allowing you to compare two weapons with a two-handed weapon. In the meantime, the numbers on the item tooltip themselves can be used to compare items in their actual current state; you just can't get a stat-by-stat breakdown.

06-06-09, 10:43 PM
AnElk A Kobold Labourer Forum posts: 0 File comments: 42 Uploads: 0	Equipement Manager With the introduction of Equipment Manager, I'm no longer using Outfitter. But I am missing the tooltip tag that told me what set the particular item was a part of. Could this be made to work with the Equipment Manager? Found myself running around with 3 pieces of gear that I no longer used, wasting bag space. With dual spec, bag space has yet again become a bit of a nuisance and I actually do run out of loot space every once in a while beeing a dual speced druid with 3 sets of gear, herbalism and mining. hehe For my hunter, the new Argent Tournament gear has also made it a bit of an annoyance that I have no good way to compare 2 handed weapons with dual wielding. I also noticed a bug in the comparison tab. I can't make pawn take my gems in slots into actual calculation. Example: I use a tank chest piece with 3 slots that all have 8 dodge 12 stamina in them but Pawn is still telling me another chest piece with far less dodge and stamina is erratically reported as better because it's not looking at the actual gem stats, only the slots available. This don't work out well in my particualr case as I'm using entirely different gems for feral DPS vs feral Tank gear. I could use a Pawn calculation based on the actual gem stats added to the item rather then just the color slots. Another example is Rogue gear. For PvE I tend to equip attack power and for PvP I tend to use Hit Rating + haste. These are both available in same color gems, but without the exact values beeing compared, again I get a faulty report on the items total value for rogue PvE vs PvP scale. Just thought I'd mention this. Paladins that are healers / Retribution dual spec would probably have even bigger issues since mana regen does nothing for a retri pally, nor does strength to a healing pally. Last edited by AnElk : 06-06-09 at 10:51 PM.

06-05-09, 03:46 PM
VgerAN A Cyclonian Forum posts: 40 File comments: 253 Uploads: 6	Ah, yeah, I suppose such a thing won't work as expected with normalization on. Normalization takes the total of all values for all stats in your scale, and then divides all item values by that amount. That way, only the relative values of your stats matter; a scale of (Stamina=1, Intellect=5) is the same as (Stamina=100, Intellect=500). Wowhead and Lootzor do this. I'd like to make it a built-in option to hide values for items you can't equip sometime in the future.

06-05-09, 02:21 PM

eddyofgarona

A Kobold Labourer

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Originally posted by VgerAN
Putting -99999 in for the plate, mail, and leather armor types and weapons that you can't equip should work. Those stats are at the bottom of the list.

Tried that out, but still showing up with a value for my mage/frost scale.

Here's the scale:
( Pawn: v1: "Mage/Frost": Intellect=21, CritRating=33, Mana=1, HasteRating=46, YellowSocket=16, Spirit=1, RedSocket=16, IsShield=-99999, IsPlate=-99999, Dps=1, IsMail=-99999, MetaSocket=16, IsLeather=-99999, HitRating=100, Health=1, BlueSocket=16, Stamina=1, SpellPower=50, Mp5=13, FrostSpellDamage=50 )

Item is: Mightstone Legplates (37482)
Plate, 1104 Armor, +24 Strength, +36 Stamina +55 Crit

Getting a .25 value returned

I do have "normalized option turned on". If I turn it off, I get no value returned.
(as I don't really use Lootzor, I suppose this may be the way to go. I selected it as it returned values closer to the amounts I was calculating on my own spreadsheet

)

I'll consider my question answered unless you see something else I'm overlooking

Thanks again for the response & the mod

Eddy

Last edited by eddyofgarona : 06-05-09 at 02:45 PM.

06-05-09, 11:55 AM
VgerAN A Cyclonian Forum posts: 40 File comments: 253 Uploads: 6	Putting -99999 in for the plate, mail, and leather armor types and weapons that you can't equip should work. Those stats are at the bottom of the list.

06-04-09, 05:56 PM
eddyofgarona A Kobold Labourer Forum posts: 0 File comments: 8 Uploads: 0	Removing Certain Armor Types from Tooltips New to Pawn, (great tool btw I have established scales for each of my various specced toons and copied all 11 scales to each of my 11 toons. When I mouse over items, I'm regularly find that I'm seeing "plate" items scored high for my "cloth" only toons. Are there any values that I can plug into each of the Armor type categories that would effectively not show me any score for a "plate" item on a scale by placing -99999, or * , or $, etc. in those fields that I would never want scores delivered for? Sorry for the ramble, I'm brand new-to Pawn. Eddy

06-02-09, 09:12 PM
VgerAN A Cyclonian Forum posts: 40 File comments: 253 Uploads: 6	Apologies for the problem; I think that 1.1.13 should solve it for everyone. I can't check it out on any REAL characters as my realm is still down for maintenance, but according to my level 1 alt on Mal'Ganis everything works smoothly again.

06-02-09, 03:19 PM
VgerAN A Cyclonian Forum posts: 40 File comments: 253 Uploads: 6	Thanks; a few people reported this on Curse too. I'm currently trying to reproduce this to see why it's happening; hopefully having specific items to look at will do the trick.

06-02-09, 04:38 AM

Dridzt

A Pyroguard Emberseer

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1.1.12: some errors

Code:

Pawn-1.1.12\Pawn.lua:1880: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'Dps' (a nil value)
Pawn-1.1.12\Pawn.lua:1248: in function <Interface\AddOns\Pawn\Pawn.lua:1009>
(tail call): ?:
Pawn-1.1.12\Pawn.lua:556: in function <Interface\AddOns\Pawn\Pawn.lua:516>
(tail call): ?:
Pawn-1.1.12\Pawn.lua:694: in function `PawnUpdateTooltip'
Pawn-1.1.12\Pawn.lua:178: in function <Interface\AddOns\Pawn\Pawn.lua:178>

when I mouseover a number of weapons.
Pride / Greed (fist weapons)
Runeblade of Demonstrable Power (sword)
Mastercraft Kalu'ak Fishing Pole

and others...
It is not a clean install I can post my scales if it helps any.

05-29-09, 02:55 PM
VgerAN A Cyclonian Forum posts: 40 File comments: 253 Uploads: 6	Yes, working more closely with Outfitter is a possibility. Outfitter is still my far-preferred way of managing gear sets.

05-29-09, 09:26 AM

joshwill80

A Murloc Raider

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Originally posted by VgerAN
Enhancements in the area of gear comparisons are definitely planned, and I'd like to do something very similar to what you propose. For that to happen, Pawn needs to keep track of a set of gear for each of your scales—either something in Equipment Manager, or just the best items for each slot that you've ever equipped. I haven't decided exactly how that should work yet.

I can see where you are going with gear sets. Maybe you could make pawn integrate with Outfitter tooltips? Outfitter currently displays extra compare tooltips for items that are in gear sets that you don't currently have equipped. That way, Pawn itself would not have to manage gear sets. Or integrate extra compare tooltips into Pawn itself, but then you would have to define gear sets in Pawn.

Actually you might not have to integrate with Outfitter tooltips at all, as Pawn values are already displayed in them, so displaying relative Pawn values might just work well with Outfitter right away.

Last edited by joshwill80 : 05-29-09 at 09:28 AM.

05-28-09, 03:12 PM
VgerAN A Cyclonian Forum posts: 40 File comments: 253 Uploads: 6	Enhancements in the area of gear comparisons are definitely planned, and I'd like to do something very similar to what you propose. For that to happen, Pawn needs to keep track of a set of gear for each of your scales—either something in Equipment Manager, or just the best items for each slot that you've ever equipped. I haven't decided exactly how that should work yet.

05-28-09, 11:37 AM
joshwill80 A Murloc Raider Forum posts: 5 File comments: 144 Uploads: 0	Relative Values I just started using Pawn, and I'm finding it useful for keeping track of whether or not a piece of gear is an upgrade for my secondary spec. I'm used to using RatingBuster, and I find it's color coded relative values are much easier to read than a total. I like to just hide the total value completely, as I don't find it very useful. I would like to see this in Pawn, as it gives the user an easy way to see if a piece of gear as an upgrade at a quick glance. For example I would like my Pawn values to appear like this (note the color coding): Heal Value: -32.6 DPS Value: +19.3 Any chance of adding this feature as an optional way to display the Pawn values? Being able to show both a total and a relative value, or just one or the other would work well I think.

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