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Pawn  Updated this week!  Popular! (More than 5000 hits)

Version: 2.9.11
by: VgerAN [More]

Find upgrades, do more damage, win.

Pawn helps you find upgrades for your gear and tell which of two items is better for your spec. Start with built-in advice from Ask Mr. Robot, or customize Pawn's stat weights to have it suggest items based on your favorite class guide or simulator. Pawn can help you decide whether it's better to use the cloak with 500 mastery or the one with 450 crit—whether you're just starting out, or you're an advanced player who plans out gear upgrades and regularly simulates and evaluates performance.

Getting started

If you're new to Pawn, don't worry—Pawn will automatically set itself up to give you advice based on math done by the experts at Ask Mr. Robot (or, on Classic, HawsJon). Just watch for Pawn's green arrows. If you decide you want to go further, there are a lot of ways that you can customize Pawn, by tracking multiple specs at once, importing custom stat weights, and more.

Language support

Pawn now works with all languages on both live/retail and Classic. It's possible that you might run into stats that Pawn doesn't recognize from time to time when playing on non-English clients—if you think that Pawn's not calculating something right, put an item into the Compare tab and see if it lists all of the stats there. If something's missing, let me know which item and which language, and I should be able to get it fixed!

Staying in touch

Become a fan of Vger on Facebook and get updates of new versions and stuff like that. You can also leave questions or comments there if you don't have an account on this site. (I typically respond to questions much more quickly on Facebook or Curse.)

Found a bug?

If you think you might have found a bug, just leave a comment here. In addition to a description of the problem, please make sure to include: (1) the language that you use Pawn and WoW in, (2) whether it's live/retail or Classic, (3) the specific items that don't work as expected, and (4) your class and spec if you're using the built-in (not custom) stat weights. Screenshots are usually very helpful as well.

Incompatible with...

Pawn will not work with Titan Panel Artifact Power or Combat Numbers Separator. Those addons change item tooltips and will cause Pawn to give bad advice. It's also been reported that using Pawn with TradeSkillMaster can cause the game to crash or hang.

Version 2.9.11

Cataclysm Classic: More updates to correctly read numbers larger than 999 on items when playing in French.

Version 2.9.10

Cataclysm Classic: Fixed a problem where the default stat weights for expertise were incorrect for all classes and specs.

Version 2.9.9

Cataclysm Classic: Fixed a problem where certain items with mastery and certain haste enchantments had those stats ignored when playing in Russian, European Spanish, and Latin American Spanish.
You can now click an item link in chat and then Alt+LeftClick the popup that appears to get a window that lets you copy all of the text on that item to the clipboard. (This is mostly only useful to me when I need to type Искусность but my keyboard doesn't have those letters.) Previously this feature only worked on Pawn's Compare tab.

Version 2.9.8

Fixed a problem introduced in Pawn 2.9.7 that caused the "Show icons next to tooltips" feature to cause an error. (Actually, Ulidan did. Thanks Ulidan and Kraturnus!)
Cataclysm Classic: Ranged Attack Power no longer appears as a distinct stat you can give a weight to; just use Attack Power for both melee and ranged.
Cataclysm Classic: Updated the default stat weights for retribution paladins.

Version 2.9.7

The War Within: Pawn now works on The War Within beta and WoW 11.0.
Mists of Pandaria Remix: Fixed another case where the socketing advisor could appear and give dubious advice.

Version 2.9.6

Mists of Pandaria Remix: Pawn's socketing advisor is now disabled in this mode, since gems work differently.
Cataclysm Classic: Updated default stat weights for all specs and classes are included, thanks to the WoWSims team. Simulations are still in their early stages, so expect some oddities—let me know if you find something egregiously wrong. Simulating your character with WoWSims (or any other favorite sim) will get you the most accurate results, and you can export custom stat weights to use in Pawn for quick in-game advice.
Cataclysm Classic: You can now set a weight for the non-stat effect of meta gems like you could in Burning Crusade Classic and Wrath Classic.
Cataclysm Classic: The deprecated stats Defense Rating and Block Value will no longer show up in Pawn.
Classic Era and Season of Discovery: Fixed a harmless error message about gem data.

Version 2.9.5

Fixed some problems introduced in Pawn 2.9.4 where Pawn could give you an error when socketing an item.
Cataclysm Classic: Added support for the armor specialization skills such as Mail Specialization.

Version 2.9.4

Cataclysm Classic: Cogwheel sockets on engineering goggles will now be considered in the item's value like any other gem socket.
Cataclysm Classic: Fixed a bug that caused gems with bad secondary stats to be valued more highly than they should have been (it was calculating things as if you could reforge the gem's bad stat into something better). The bug shouldn't have affected the values of existing items unless you were using gems that are bad for your spec.

Version 2.9.3

Cataclysm Classic: Fixed a problem where the "track for each scale (advanced)" option could cause an error.
Cataclysm Classic: Pawn will no longer display a warning when logging in if you play in French.

Version 2.9.2

Cataclysm Classic: When visiting an Arcane Reforger, Pawn will now display advice on how to reforge the item to maximize its power. (You can turn this off with the "show reforge advisor" option.)
Cataclysm Classic: Pawn's Compare tab will now show you how much an item's score can be improved by reforging it (assuming you make the change that Pawn suggests).
Cataclysm Classic: Pawn will now take reforging into account when determining an item's score and whether or not it's an upgrade.

Version 2.9.1

Cataclysm Classic: Pawn will now recommend the proper gems based on the new colors and stats of existing gems.
Cataclysm Classic: Fixed a bug that caused a few stat weights to get reset to 0 when editing in the Weights tab and then reloading.
Cataclysm Classic: Added support for all of the new Cataclysm gems, which Pawn will start recommending as you get Cataclysm gear.
Fixed a bug that caused gems to always appear as upgrades.

Version 2.9.0

Cataclysm Classic: Added basic support for Cataclysm Classic. The following important work is not yet done:
Updated stat weights (if you know of a good source, please let me know!)
Reforging support
I'm not playing Classic, so I'll need your help pointing out remaining things that are broken!
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Unread 02-10-11, 05:26 PM  
VgerAN
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Yeah, that's a common request. I'll look into making that possible once there's a way to associate a specific scale with a specific gear set, so the hit cap stuff can all be based on your gear for a specific spec, not versus what you're currently wearing. For example, I'd want the feature to work for resto shamans who occasionally DPS in enhancement spec but are in their healing gear when a mace they might want drops. Calculations for hit should be based on their enhancement gear, not their resto gear.
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Re: average ilvl

Originally posted by ContraLFE
is pawn not calculating average ilvls correctly? it says i have an ilvl of 350 but on wowarmory it says my equipped is 355. sorry if this has been posted already but i couldnt find anything on it when i googled.
Check out Pawn 1.5.5; I added the ability to calculate an average item level the way that you expect. It's in the same place as before.
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Re: Re: average ilvl

I was thinking about the current vs base value change and realized there are a couple cases where it showing the current value is useful: multiple specs using similar gear.

For example, agility leather is used by both druid cat and bear sub-specs. A bear would reforge to dodge and gem stamina which would result in a lower the current value for a cat spec. A drop/quest item might have a lower base value, but when reforged would be higher than the theoretically better version.

I suspect various casters might have similar issues with subtile differences in stat weights.

I'm not necessarily advocating the current value returns - just something to consider.
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VgerAN has indicated on another site that the much-loved "current value" will soon make a comeback.

You can turn it back on yourself if you don't want to wait.

Pawn.lua line 121: change it to this (from "false"):

local PawnCommon_ShowEnchanted = true
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Many thanks for the wonderful addon.
Being an engineer I noted today Pawn suggests me to put 2 Quick Cogwheel in my engineering headpiece, problem is the gems are Unique-Equipped thus you can't have 2 of the same kind in your gear. Would be great to fix this ^^
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Son of a...

Damn you cogwheels; gotta make everything more complicated. I guess I need to keep a "top three" or something for cogwheels.

Thanks for the report.
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For default weights, you may wish to consider using those provided by askmrrobot.com either instead of or in addition to those from wowhead. They are fairly well theorycrafted and/or researched from other theorycrafting sites, and cover all specs.

Otherwise, excellent addon. All the changes you've added since 4.0 have been simply stellar.
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Thanks for the suggestion!
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Since 1.5.6 I often get following error at different places (bags, quest rewards, ...), with different chars and even with same items not everytime:

Message: Interface\AddOns\Pawn\Pawn.lua:2648: attempt to compare nil with number
Time: 03/13/11 09:10:19
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Stack: Interface\AddOns\Pawn\Pawn.lua:2648: in function `PawnIsItemAnUpgrade'
/edit: Thanks, fix in 1.5.7 works.
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The "attempt to compare number with nil" error that some people were having frequently is now fixed in Pawn 1.5.7. Sorry for the troubles!
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Confused


I've only just discovered Pawn and was very interested in what it claims to be able to do. However, I can't claim to understand the scales that it uses and am having trouble finding a scale resource for Cataclysm.

What confuses me though is the cases where I loot a grey or white item and Pawn informs me that they would be an upgrade to my gear, which consists of mainly blue and green items. This is with Pawn out of the box with no custom scales loaded.

I've looked on the "un-official" Pawn forum and it seems quite un-used and out of date as far as scale resources are concerned, is there anywhere else I can go to to find up-to-date scales for all classes?

Beyond that, thanks Vger for what should be a fantastic addon once I've figured out how to use it.
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The included Wowhead scales are all pretty up-to-date at this point. Beyond those, a lot of the popular Elitist Jerks threads (and so on) have stat weights that you can plug into Pawn for a particular spec. And, several simulators such as Rawr can generate Pawn scales for you, specifically tailored to your character's talents and current gear.

As far as the strange upgrades go, I'm guessing that you're only seeing this on weapons. Pawn tracks upgrades separately for 1H and 2H weapons, so if you don't have any 1H weapons other than perhaps a skinning knife and a trash one drops, it's shown as an upgrade to your current best 1H weapon: the skinning knife. I try to make this a little clearer with the "upgrade for 1H set" text so it's easier to tell WHAT it's an upgrade of.

If you never want to see 1H or 2H upgrades for one of your specs (for example, if you're an unholy DK who never plans on dual-wielding), you can go to the Values tab, select that scale, find a one-handed or two-handed weapon in the stats list (toward the bottom), and you should see a checkbox to never consider that size of weapon as an upgrade.

If 1H/2H doesn't sound like the situation you're running into, and can give me an example of what item you have, what scale you're using, and what trash item it says is an upgrade, I should be able to tell you what's going on.

Hope that helps!
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Thanks for taking time to reply Vger. I'll make a note next time this happens, though from memory it happens with both weapons and armor, and also, though I'm using the included WoWHead feral druid scale, everything I pick up is shown as an upgrade, even items with stats such as +intellect and +spirit (where I'm expecting +agi and +stam).

Is Pawn designed to be used by level capped players? I only ask this since looking at the likes of EJ and Rawr they only seem to cater to these players (I'm a lowly level 29). I can give it a try on my 85 Mage and see what happens there.

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It's definitely geared toward level 85 players, but I've used it while leveling and it's worked out pretty well for me. In particular the stat weights given are definitely for level 85 players.

One thing that comes to mind is that Pawn will track upgrades for all of your scales that are active. If you have all of the bear, kitty, resto, and balance scales visible, it'll show you upgrades for all of those sets. Maybe you're seeing upgrades for your balance and resto sets while you're questing as feral? If you're not actively maintaining gear for those sets, you can turn them off and you won't see upgrades for them anymore. Open up the Pawn window and shift-click on the scales you don't care about anymore. (You can always find them in the list and shift-click them again to get them back.)

Does that help?
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Hi VGerAN, I think you may have hit the nail on the head, my guess is that any gear with +int and +spirit that is shown as an upgrade is for the resto scale since I haven't turned any scales off as yet, will give your suggestion a try.

TBH, most of the theorycraft stuff I see on EJ, shadowpanther and the like just confuses me at the moment having not spent much time thinking about it.

But thanks again and well done on what I think will soon become one of my most important addons.
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