LightHeaded 

I'm not precisely sure what you are saying. Do you by any chance have DoubleWide installed and enabled? The features of DoubleWide have been built into the default user interface, so you may see weird behavior if you leave it enabled.

If you're saying that the LightHeaded window is not displaying information, do you have the data addons installed and enabled? You can find the reason for the blank-ness with the slash command /lh debug.

That is "test text" and it's because UberQuest is not doing something that its supposed to be doing. I suggest you contact the author of that addon, as they will need to make any necessary changess.

First off, Lightheaded will only load the information you require. Secondly, you are almost certainly over-reacting to the "memory usage" of your addons, when in fact it has no effect on your gaming experience.

I have no interest whatsoever in releasing a completely different version of LightHeaded (which is what this would require). Again, LightHeaded _only_loads the information it requires on any session. This is under 200k overhead when you're not actively using the quest log.. and only those quest data files that you actually view.

I'd love to hear why you to elaborate why this is an actual (rather than a percieved) problem.

Them something is definitely wrong. The only data addons that EVER load are those that an addon has queried information about. On a fresh reload without opening the quest log (and with no other quest addons installed) you can see this. Furthermore, you can download AddonLoader (http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-a...on-loader.aspx) and even the NPC information and other data components are not loaded until they are needed.

Are you using an outdated version? That is the only way I can explain what you are seeing.

Not all of us play on beastly machines. 2 GB is not enough anymore, particularly in high-traffic areas like Dalaran, and I was/am tired of having to excuse myself to my guildies on vent--"Sorry, long load times, lots of addons." Load times when zoning are very much directly affected by the addons you have loaded. I've noticed my gaming experience significantly improved with fewer addons--zone/instance load times are much shorter, my computer is able to populate high traffic areas more quickly, and there is generally less "skippiness." There was no need to be mean and assume I was lying or misinterpreting the memory usage right before my eyes. It was just an "I wonder if?" question from someone who really enjoys your work and would like to use it more often. I'd've donated for something like this to be made available.

I don't play on a beastly machine, but I do understand the impact of addon memory usage on gameplay. The issue is the things addons are doing, not the amount of space they are taking up in RAM. I agree, extreme usage can negative effect, but the 14-16MB that LightHeaded takes (at full usage, which almost never happens) should not cause any slowdown in your game, even on a very very slow machine (of which I have multiple to test).

You need to look into the LH memory usage closer, and download AddonLoader. I assure you that I've done everythign possible to ensure low memory usage, and you should never see more than 200k when no quest information is being queried.. and only 1-2 data addons loaded if you are questing in the same general areas/levels.

I'm not upset or offended, just don't like wrong information being spread and want to ensure that things are correctly stated.

I'm not being snarky. I am attempting to clear up misconceptions that the user seems to have, before they spread to my other users.

I did say that I have no plans to write anything like that, but the fact of the matter is something like that is not really necessary. I have carefully designed LightHeaded to work this way in particular to have the least impact on the user experience.

Yes, I know that the numbers pile up, but what slows down a machine is the work that's being done, in particular the rendering and the pulling of textures from hard storage. I'm not just talking out of my ass here =)

And that 6 MB for Lightheaded_Data_A was loaded after literally one quest lookup, plus another meg for the NPC data module. I can screenshot the list of memory usage if you don't believe this. An hour or so of questing and I'm hitting that 14-16 MB you mentioned. Also, I removed LH quite some time ago and just downloaded it today to see if you'd made some significant change to the code to fix the problem, so it's not an old version. That was a minutes-old download sucking up 6 MB on one quest lookup.

Yes, and you see to think this is unreasonable. Before you did that one quest lookup, nothign was loaded. The fact of the matter is this addon has to store and display almost 85,000 comments for over 7,000 quests. I've divided it up so that only portion of the full data is loaded (its split into five at the moment) when you request something that falls into that bucket.

While I appreciate your suggestion, I've tried AddonLoader and rather strongly disliked it. All it does is cause a minor unexpected freeze the first time I visit a vendor, visit a mailbox, cast a spell, whatever (Quartz, Postal, tekJunkSeller) and it doesn't unload the addon after it's done, so all it does is grant me a few seconds of reprieve off the initial load time into the game without really improving performance, since those are some of the first few tasks I do when I log in.

Whatever you feel is best. LightHeaded loads quite a bit more without AddonLoader enabled, although still nowhere near the cost of one of the data addons. With AddonLoader, it delays loading until someone calls the API or opens the quest log.. and I mean loading at all.. as in the addon is not loaded until any of that happens.

You know your system best and what you feel is going to be best for it.

Regardless, I simply wanted to defend my factual statements as NOT the misinformation they're being declared. Screenshots available upon request.

I have never once denied that a data addon for LightHeaded takes 6Mb of data. I wrote the addon, I do know the facts about it. I am denying the fact that LightHeaded routinely ramps up to the original (much larger) number that you were stating.

Furthermore, I am disagreeing wholeheartedly with the fact that the amount of RAM your addon take up is affecting your gameplay. I have played WoW on the best machine and on terribly shit machines. Even 75 megs is nothing compared to the RAM and CPU that WoW is using during normal operation.

Would you like a test? Try running the following:

/run garbage = {}
/run for i=1,256000 do table.insert(garbage, coroutine.create(function() end)) end
/run print(gcinfo() / 1024)

When this is done, a number will be printed to your chat frame. You will have created 256Mb of memory usage. You can clear this using the following:

/run garbage = nil; collectgarbage("collect"); collectgarbage("collect")

I am saying two things here:

• At the current time I have no plans to split the NPC coordinate information out into a separate addon, because I think it works quite fine as it is.
• I recognize that there is a benefit to decoupling the quest information from the quest comments, and perhaps in the future I will make a change like this.
• If I am to make the change above, it will be due to better organization and usage of the addon, not the memory usage.
• The reason I am not concerned with memory usage is because Lightheaded does amazingly well considering the amount of data it is responsible for providing to a large number of addons.

In addition, I understand computers, and the WoW system well enough to know that while on very low end machines (1GB or less), extreme memory usage can effect the overall performance of the machine (in particular if a shared memory video card is involved), however the amount of memory being consumed by LightHeaded during normal use should not have a marked impact on the performance of the game.

Everyone lags in Dalaran. Lots of people play the game with machines that are slower than yours. The large addon memory usage numbers may scare you, but correlation is not causation.

I don't want you to stop using LightHeaded, that's precisely why I'm saying any of this. It's not to prove you wrong or make any other such statement. I'm trying to explain (check the test above, does your FPS suffer that heavily under that EXTREME case?) that memory usage of the order of magnitude you are seeing should not be affecting the performance of your WoW client.

Thanks for listening.