eXtreme Unit Buttons 

First off, want to say that the fix you put in for me, with the buttons maintaining their cooldown disabled look, is working great! I can now tell when a button is on cooldown, even if I have the mouse button over it.

Found some issues with 1.8 ß4 that I wanted to mention (hate to be the bearer of bad news, but figured you'd want to know about these...

1) Question on the timer value that appears on the button. It seems the number is off slightly. By that, I mean that if I do an instant cast buff, it shows a two second cooldown value then a one second then the cooldown finishes. I had thought the global cooldown is just one second, is this true? If so, then why does the numeric value showing on the button start at 2 and after the spinner has made a quarter turn to the right does it go down to 1? Oh btw my update rate is 0.02.

2) Cooldown timer value and display when spell is interrupted. If I have a spell associated with a button, and it has, for example, a three second cooldown, and while I'm trying to cast the spell (already have pushed the button), the mob hits me and causes a interrupt delay, so that the cast will actually take four seconds, the cooldown value does not update, and the cooldown animation and timer value finishes early, even though the spell is still casting.

3) Minor UI issues. With the new options you have made available, if I go to the 'Options' UI page, even though the new options are set internally (in memory), the UI still shows my old options that I had selected before v1.8beta 2 (I didn't d/l beta 3). Not a big deal, I make a change in the UI to the value that the underlying value is set to, and now they are both in synch. Still though, a cosmetic item that should probably be taken cared of.

As always, thank you for your hard work, it is appreciated.

They do not seem to be as effected. I tried blessing of protection which has a longer cooldown then the global cooldown. When I click on it it goes dim and I see the global cooldown as a spinner for about 1/3 a second. After that it switches to its own cooldown which counts out the spell cooldown - where the elapsed part of the timer shows the spell at normal brightness. If I hover over the spells I see the mouse highlight - but it is not as pronounced as the XUB buttons. perhaps they are playing with the alpha of the highlight in the lua code - I didn't see it in the XML.

If a spell has a fast or medium cooldown I think the spinner works well. For real long cooldowns (hearthstone or longer) the spinners down have the precision to tell you (I will have to play with a 5 minute cooldown to get a feel -but it takes 5 minutes to get to those last couple of seconds).

Those were my observations.

Drome

Going to combine two replies into one reply post...

@paladindrome:

Thanks for your work on this. I agree that performance needs to be up there. However, for me at least, visualization is vitally important too. One of the main reason I use XUB is for the visual queues it offers (like buff blink).

As far as the cooldown timer value goes, I "think" (need to confirm this) it has to do with a 'use' type button, vs. a 'buff' (etc.) type buttons. I'll try to confirm this today and post back here.

Oh, FYI, I'm using v1.8 beta1, upload 2.


@tayedaen:

Thanks for your work as well. Its really important for me to have disabled/cooldown buttons appear as if they are on cooldown, so I'll cross my fingers that your potential fix does the trick.


@ Both of you:

The buttons that appear on the standard Blizzard toolbar, at the bottom of the screen, when you mouse over them, while they are on cooldown, do they also lose their cooldown color/transparency level, and appear as if they are NOT on cooldown? I'll try to answer my own question too, but just wondering if either of you already know this?

Thank you both for your hard work, it is appreciated.

I show the cool down timer counting down to 2 seconds - could be I am running 1.8B,

As far as I can tell the Blizzard mouse over highlight is causing this. I made half an attempt to drop the highlight altogether but I was not successful. I dont think we will be able to rewrite Blizzard's highlight code so I would rather try to figure out something that makes the buttons workable. One thought would be to duplicate the UI of the Action bar buttons - that mouse over while on cool down seems much more usable. Another choice could be to make some kind of indicator that shows a button is ready (a checkmark?). No matter what we do I am concerned over latency issues (IE how do we make sure the indication comes the instant that the cool down is done).

I think making all buttons have a good cool down is a good thing. To start we need a list of where it doesn't work, and knock them out as we can.

I hear you loud and clear.

Drome

Sorry for the delay in replying.

I use the red coloring scheme for when a button is not available to be pressed, though I have tried it with the transparent color scheme too.

The countdown value just does not show at all when I mouse over a button that is on cooldown, PLUS the button's appearance changes to look like its NOT on cooldown and can be pressed, but then when I move the mouse away from the button it goes back to the cooldown red color.

The cooldown timer value shows on some things sometimes and not other times, depending if the button is associated with a 'use' item or a spell type item ('buff', 'buffblink', etc.), as far as I can tell.

Forgetting the cooldown timer numeric value display issue for a moment, the color/transparancy level of a button changes when you mouse over it, and it looks like a button is ready to be pressed when its not.

To test this, you should be able to create a button associated with a spell that has a cooldown, press the button, move the mouse away to verify its on cooldown and the color is now red/transparant, then mouse the mouse pointer back over the button, and the button will be highlighted and display as if it is ready to be pressed, when if the cooldown still has thirty seconds to go.

EDIT: To elaborate, while the cooldown timer value not always displaying is an important issue, the real issue I wanted to bring to your attention is the fact that the visual indication of a button on cooldown (either red color or transparant) is lost when you move the mouse pointer over a button, so that the button looks like its ready to be pressed, even though its still on cooldown. This is the primary issue I wish to bring to your attention, while the cooldown timer numeric value being displayed in the button issue being the secondary issue for your attention.

In case it helps, here's my 'Custom Buttons' setup for my warlock...

Sorry about the mix-up was using the docs from the downloads page not the quick start guide inside the zip gonna give them a shot.

Thanks
-Nadras
of Uther

I assume you are using XPERL frames for raid. The line that was shown is in the xperl raid support code - and it comes right after we ask XPERL for the frame associated with a raid member.

Does this occur everytime you join a raid - or only sometimes? Does it occur when a new player is added to the raid? Are you in combat when it occurs?

I can see adding a check to make sure that XPERL returned a frame - although if this call fails I don't know the long term ramifications.

Drome

Hey guys please see if you can assist here. I have only just starting using XUB and it's absolutely superb, the creation interface is fine and very dynamic.

I just have one problem, i have tried to research it, but seems no luck.

http://s20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...urrent=XUB.jpg

here's a screenshot of the problem, and it only seems to happen after I join a raid party. All other times it's working great. I'm using the latest version from this site, and i'm pretty much stuck.. I admit to being a noob, but if you dont ask you'll never know

Thanks in advance for any assistance at all.

Cheers

I will try and update the quickstart pdf this week.

Drome

I looked into changing the mouse over / highlight funciton a little bit - but have not had any success. Does the countdown go away or does it get hard to see. When I use transparency in the options screen I find it hard to see the countdown but if I use the red/blue color option the countdown text is visible with the mouse over.

Drome

I'm a Level 70 War. Yea I tried using the PDF( to make a macro to open /XUB) But to me is wasn't clear on what to do first .

So any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
-Nadras

The PDFs that come with the add-on have some examples, though the pdf is kind of out of date. If you want, I can post my pally setup for you? What level/class is your character?