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Updated: | 06-30-10 11:12 PM |
Created: | 01-02-10 02:57 AM |
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Elitist Group's goal is to shift focus away from single scores which don't tell you anything about the users choice of gear. Instead of a single score, Elitist Group shows you a variety of data from the players experience per dungeons and raid (can be broken down by boss), to whether their choice of equipment, enchants or gems fit their spec. You can still see the players average item level as well, but it's not the primary focus and only there to give you an idea of a players gear.
All user data will be compressed on logout to keep the database size more manageable. However, a variety of database management options are included to delete data after a certain period of time, or not save data on people from another server.
Interested in people being able to see your mains experience or request your data, but don't want the entire addon? Take a look at Elitist Group Sender, which does nothing more than respond to experience or data requests.
Slash command: /elitistgroup (/eg) use /eg help for a list of slash commands.
Bugs? Suggestions? Items flagged wrong?
Easiest way to report anything is through the ticket tracker. Should you be reporting an item being flagged incorrectly, make sure you include as much details as to why it's wrong.
How are items categorized?
Based on stats. Spell Power is a caster item, Hit is for DPS, Strength is only for melee dps, Defense for tanks and so on. As you can see in the screenshots, you are given what an items type is. Whether an item is allowed or not is based on spec, meaning Holy Paladins will be flagged for wearing Retribution gear, but a Retribution Paladin will not.
If somebody is missing an enchant or gem, Elitist Group will also tell you that.
Summary
To speed up checking out your raid or dungeon group, you can use /eg summary. It will quickly inspect everyone in your group and give you a summarized report on the status of their gear, enchants and gems.
Player notes
Finished a dungeon, was your tank amazing? Notes will allow you to rate him 1 - 5 and leave a comment for future reference, these can even be synced between your friends or guild. You can leave one note per person, with your most recent note being used. Use /eg rate to open this.
Dungeon experience
Quickly see how much experience a player has in a particular dungeon or raid, broken down by hard modes and even by pass. For raids, players are experienced after roughly 3 clears and for 5 mans it's around 6 (combined runs, not 6 of each). The scoring is setup to reward full clears. That way, somebody who can only clear the first 4 bosses of 25-man Trial of the Grand Crusader will have to do a lot more clears to be considered experienced, compared to the person who can full clear it.
To make it easier on players, achievements are factored into the experienced weighting. For example, A Tribute to Insanity and The Immortal will count for a full clear. Even doing 25-man Uldaur hard mods will increase your 25-man Ulduar normal mode experience.
No reason your alt should be left out of the fun because you haven't done a dungeon on the character yet. As of v1.5, you can setup a character as your main and whenever people request your data in Elitist Group they will see your mains experience. No more being left out because of an inexperienced alt!
Item level
To stop 200 item level blues being worth the same as 200 item level epics, simple modifiers are applied to item level based on quality: -0% epic, -5% blue, -10% green, -40% white, -50% grey. Heirlooms are considered 187 item level blues at 80, or 2.22 item level/per player level.
Suggested dungeons are the lowest item dropped -11% for 5-mans, -10% for normal 10 and 25 mans and a -9% modifier for heroic 10 and 25 mans.
Addon communication
Notes and player data can be synced. Players can request your gear or notes at any time; however, you can disable all communications entirely so you will not send or parse to them. Finer control over what channels to monitor is also included in /eg config, you can set it to not listen for gear requests from party or raid, but still in guild.
While in combat, you will not send or parse comm messages.
To prevent people from corrupting your database, Elitist Group will not accept other players gear data unless the player themselves sent it (Johnny can send his gear data, Steve cannot send Johnny's unless Steve is on your trusted list).
As of v1.5, more complicated syncing has been added to allow you to send your entire user or notes database, see here for information.
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01-31-10, 01:54 PM | ||
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01-31-10, 01:21 PM | ||
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I've never had any issues with the tanks in question, either in them holding threat (while I DPS) or in them taking lots and/or spikey damage (when I heal). |
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01-31-10, 12:46 PM | ||
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01-31-10, 12:46 PM | ||
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From talking with a DK theorycrafter:
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01-31-10, 12:16 PM | ||
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With that said, at least one of the main tanks in the guild is one of the people being erroneously shown as melee, and one of the 'new' tanks modeled after those talents. Here's the screenshot of the new one, since he was in front of me at the time. They're both dual-wielding frost tanks. Is there some way to modify this? Like assuming 2/3 of those skills means that the DK in question is a tank?
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01-30-10, 11:13 AM | |
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chicknlil25: Death Knights and Feral Druids use slightly different tank mechanics, namely they require the player to have a certain amount of talents to be a tank. If you see either of those being flagged as a tank it's because they aren't picking up the tank talents.
It's not very obvious that it works like this thought, it should be clearer. bentalbot: Keep in mind that memory usage is irrelevant, it doesn't impact performance. I'll probably add item classifications as a quick little module as I'd rather keep it out of the core. |
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01-30-10, 08:01 AM | |
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DK Tank Builds flagged as Melee
I've just downloaded the lastest version (and will subsequently be checking to see if this continues), but I've noticed in some runs that DK tanks have been flagged as "melee" and thus their gear is 0% - it's not picking up the spec as valid for tanking, I guess?
Would you like me to grab screenshots if this behavior continues? |
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01-27-10, 08:51 AM | |
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A small feature request; would it be possible to have the "Caster (All)", "Melee (DPS)" item classifications added to regular item tool tips?
There are times when other addons like Pawn will flag something such as the Sliver of Pure Ice as an upgrade for me (Moonkin) when it's a healer trinket. I think having a clear indication as to whether the item is right for your class would be useful. EDIT: Also, I'm grateful you added a reset. I hate it when addons take up over a meg of memory, so being able to clear out those who I don't really care about (pugs) is a great help. I largely just use EG to make sure that everyone in my raid group has all of their gear enchanted/gemmed properly anyway.
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01-26-10, 11:22 AM | |
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ChaosInc: Both fixed, will push it once servers are up.
Neef: Thanks! Might be interested in http://www.wowace.com/addons/eg-former/ once more of it's fleshed out if you lead pug raids. You can't delete people from the database, but why do you need to? |
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01-26-10, 07:40 AM | |
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2 options don't seem to be working for me in heroics. (Realms are down so I can't get their exact wording)
1) "Show rating frame at end": Frame doesn't pop up upon completions, but still gives the chat message about using /rate 2) "Show group summary at dungeon start": Same as #1, frame doesn't pop up when entering an instance
Last edited by Sythalin : 01-26-10 at 07:41 AM.
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01-25-10, 01:55 PM | |
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I like this addon, I like it a lot.
I've not wanted to use GearScore because of the negative connotations that come along with it, but have been needing a reliable and quick method of previewing people for PuG Raids I host. Thanks Shadowed. P.S. - Is there a way to delete someone from your data base?
Last edited by Neef : 01-25-10 at 03:38 PM.
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01-25-10, 12:12 AM | |
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It's fixed.
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01-24-10, 11:29 PM | |
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