Fishing Ace! 

Sounds promising, just replaced FishingBuddy and I'll take it for a spin when I get around to it .

For some reason, I can get the auto lure function to work. I am using version 0.4.1 in the 2.1.0 WoW patch.

could you ditch the ace in the name and mention of back-end code in the comments? its not marketing.

So says the dev who has moved to Dongle .

Many (many) mods make mention in their comments/description of the libraries they use in the code, Ace, Dongle or otherwise. Its not "marketing"; no problem there.

But yes, using "Ace" in a mod name is something that has been discouraged for a while by the library devs (since the switch to Ace2).

As it stands right now today 9.9.07 this mod does.. 1 thing it replaces the normal bobber sound with "i saw a fish"..

It doesnt auto cast, it wont autolure, what exactly is the point of this mod? at least with fishing buddy you are tracking useful information etc.. here you are just wasting peoples time/memory space/etc. People may as well simply replace the sound effect in the data folder rather than load a mod to do it.

As for the name being fishing ace... that is really the last thing on the list thats wrong with this particular mod!

So in closing either fix the mod to do more than change the sound effects, or just pull it from distribution.

this is exactly my point

It is none of your concern/business what I use to make my addons. stick to yelling at me whats wrong with it usability-wise.

Many (many) people are wrong in mentioning that they use some kind of backend as it IS marketing. period.

also, you mean "the addon devs" not "the library devs" and I know that it has been discouraged, I've been there from the start/been part of that decision.

Actually any author that showed off that they used Dongle in their mod description would be murdered by clad, saying "Switched to Dongle" or "Updated Dongle to latest version" in a changelog doesn't count, it's called SVN and keeping logs of what you're doing.

Having an image with "Ace" in it, having the title with Ace in it even in the Ace category, and then mentioning it as a standard Ace2 addon is marketing, and it's stupid and useless.

Find me an addon that touts that its a "Dongle addon" and I will take care of it. It's absolutely not encouraged, and I actively fight it.

It's extremely important to me that an addon stand on its own regards, not sit as part of a marketing machine, by the way. Making hasty generalizations without knowing what you're talking about is a bad thing.

The final line was unneeded . I'm not going to start something here with publically "naming names". But I know at least one author that has made plain mention of using Dongle in their Googlecode SVN revision notes .

If you want to strongly discourage anyone referring to Dongle except in the code, yes fine, that's very much your right. I frankly don't see the problem with mod authors making mention of what they use for other libraries, though.

If someone is doing boosterism--"I'm using Kenny's Library because its the best/its small & efficient/it breeds cute kitties"--that's, IMHO, neither here nor there, as long as its accurate. I just don't see it mattering.

Its same thing as a mod author who doesn't use any third-party libraries telling people in the mod description that they "have made optimizations to my mod to make its display of kitties more realistic". Its not "marketing", its telling people simple technical details.

If, on the other hand, the main devs for that library are actually encouraging people to make large mention of the library in their mod descriptions, then yes, that might be "marketing". "Encouraging people" meaning regularly saying to do so in the Kenny's Library forums, putting up advice to do so in Kenny's Library wiki, encouraging authors to randomly criticize other libraries in mod descriptions, etc..

I don't see that happening, so I can't see what's happening with Fishing Ace as "marketing" (other than the mod title). Others may disagree.

Pretty much all of us mention the library we use in our SVN revision notes. Thats because revision notes are NOTES FOR US FOR WHAT WE DID, the point of them is so if something breaks or we need to revert to an older file we know what changed at what revision, and for helping others who are working with the code.

Because, we end up with exactly this problem you see in this mod, 10000 mentions to the library.

200 mentions to Ace only with an image is marketing.

Yes.. I have.. because when I make a commit to an addon, updating Dongle.lua.. it shows up there. I meant every word of the final line, because I feel you are making hasty generalizations about a topic you don't even know half of the history about. Personal opinion? Sure.

If you want to strongly discourage anyone referring to Dongle except in the code, yes fine, that's very much your right. I frankly don't see the problem with mod authors making mention of what they use for other libraries, though.

I detest fanaticism, in everything.

Its same thing as a mod author who doesn't use any third-party libraries telling people in the mod description that they "have made optimizations to my mod to make its display of kitties more realistic". Its not "marketing", its telling people simple technical details.

And as a computer scientist, and a computer science teacher, I'm appaled with the way some people throw around the words "optimized" and "modular" without fully understanding the implications, or definitions of the words.

I don't see that happening, so I can't see what's happening with Fishing Ace as "marketing" (other than the mod title). Others may disagree.

Please note I didn't say a word about Fishing Ace. I came here, because Dongle was being thrown around in an argument it didn't belong in, period.

SVN commit notes are _not_ the same as an addon description or title or picture. If you can't see the difference between a legitimate track of revision history in the development process, I don't know what more I can do.

Let's let these file comments get back on topic. This discussion doesn't belong here.

Well... the comments have gotten a bit off track (or maybe I am on the wrong train). Is this a complete replacement for FB? I've always used FB and loved its functionality and Sutorix's support over the months (could be years).

Just saw that there was an update to FishingAce and thought I'd see if there was anything substantive about features on the page... and, I am instead greeted by all of this.

Hopefully I'm not speaking out of the side of my neck, but as I remeber the discussion when this project first started, over on the wowace wiki, the use of "Ace" in the name had NOTHING to do with using Ace2 to build it. It was being used with one of the other meanings of the word intended... you know, the one where it means that you're REALLY good at something.

It's just ridiculous that the first assumption made is that the author is somehow engaging in harmful commercialism. Maybe it would have been better to assume the best until you read substantive proof of anything else, not just the name of the Mod.

Have been using this mod for quite some time w/o any problems. As of Thursday it doesn't work on my main char. For the others that fish, it works fine.
Getting zero error messages and everything is enabled, did a clean install twice. Mod is simply not doing anything on one character.

1) no auto lure
2)no casting when double clicking
3) have not installed any new mods

This frees up button slots for me so any help is greatly appreciated, tyvm in advance!

Noone needs proof of anything because its ABOUT the name.

That rule applies to addons hosted on wowace.com.

It's also not only about the name but also the decency to discuss this with the owner of wowace, since 1. its using their stuff and 2. they have a rule about naming.

Furthermore the current name ("Fishing Ace! An Ace2 (TM)(SM)(c) Addon") is unacceptable for obvious reasons.

In short, stop being childish.