LightHeaded 

They do not "use two other sites bandwidth" except inasmuch as they direct users who will be using that bandwidth to download anyway. And they do it for more than two sites. They use *less* bandwidth and server processor time in this fashion than users who would manually go and download those addons.
They had no onus (nor requirement!) to go to any site whatsoever to reprint site ads. They have no obligation to do this. Bear in mind NO automated addon download tool does this, even the Curse's own tool (and WoWI doesn't have one yet; I DO look forward to that day). While this is absolutely a *good* reason for Wowinterface and Curse to block Wowmatrix, there is no moral reprehensibility for this action.
(acknowledgement of previous arguments) I have seen lots of other folks claim that many users use web browsers with ad blockers that would seem to invalidate the argument, it nevertheless remains that there is no *way* to show ads in Wowmatrix, and that is a good enough reason for WoWI and Curse to want to block wowmatrix.


Thank you- I had been looking for that. Note this is *after* Wowmatrix was accused of costing sites bandwidth. While it may have been the wrong move to make, it was certainly an understandable one for them TO make. Sending a DMCA cease request is the correct way to inform someone to stop. Had they not stopped, then there would be fault to be found.

This is FUD. While technical errors are aggravating, this is unremarkable. They were not hosting an out of date version of ARL- they were posting an automated link to a version that was out of date, and this is due to misconfiguration on the HOSTING end, which also got resolved very quickly. There are two ways you could be talking about how they list your addons: either the list of addons a user has installed (which is FUD) or the master list of addons which shows which addons they could install, which goes (went) to WoWI to collect them. As a user of your addons Lightheaded and TomTom, which I used to have to manually update (and have to again), I have never been poorly served by how WoWmatrix installed your addons. You may have felt aggrieved that you had to support someone who HAD run into difficulties, but you have no obligation to do this, and WoWmatrix is extrremely unlikely to have been adding to your support burden as the automated installer prevents a lot of manual mistakes.
Now as I say this, I acknowledge that I am not you and you may have had a greater support burden than I have stated here. If so, I am sorry. Regardless, while this may be a reason for you, personally, to take issue with WoWmatrix (or even on behalf of others), it is again not a reason for moral outrage. It's a technical error at worst, and ALL applications have them.

A fair reason for you to want to remove your addon. They were under no obligation to remove your addon from a list of addons they supported automation for, just as you are under no obligation to allow them to do so. This is FUD, regardless of its factual nature, however, as there is no wrongdoing here.


The last fact mentioned (bandwidth usage in violation of terms of service) I acknowledged previously, as the current verbiage of choice is no longer that they were stealing bandwidth, but that they are utilizing bandwidth in violation of terms of usage. Since there are no terms of usage posted on the site before allowing access to the site, this could be debated, but really, it doesn't matter if I DO debate it, as they have (again) every right to block access by anyone or anything for any reason.



My apologies- I just saw the last line about not wanting to get into a debate with me. You have withheld damaging commentary, but not your opinion (as I have not withheld mine). I disagree that the arguments presented are not FUD in some cases (as outlined), but it doesn't matter about my opinion. Your RIGHT to not host/allow access is definitely agreed upon. Should you wish to terminate this discussion now, I will not continue or browbeat you. Should you wish to post a final response to this one, I will read it respectfully (as I hope I have shown!) and decline to comment further except if you specifically request a response.

Poor verbiage on my part. I should have said FUD rather than misinformation, since any one of those could be true. I have heard LOTS of people reiterate those points, but *zero* factual substantiation which is why I picked that word. The best part is the change over on the final point over usage of bandwidth to usage of bandwidth in violation of their terms of usage which IS factually correct, and easy to find. The reason I posted in the way I did is due to the very wearying (to me) tone of moral outrage associateed with an automated download tool. It's not morally reprehensible, and while there have been issues with getting functionality addon authors may have desired into a tool whose sole purpose is to make an end-user's life easier, the fact remains that requirements made of Wowmatrix have been followed through with REMARKABLE alacrity. Better even than host site's response time.

But really the point I failed to make (my fault) is, the only point that actually matters is that is is YOUR addon, and you have the right to host it and control it however you please. The other reasons don't matter except inasmuch as they help (or hinder) you in arriving at any decision you make.

EDIT- Note, I am making no judgement on your decision not to host/allow WoWmatrix regarding your addon, nor am I making a judgement of WoWinterface's decision to block Wowmatrix. You and they both have every right, *regardless* of any reasons you may have!

A lot of misinformation there. The only part that matters (and really, it *is* sufficient) is

Nothing more is needed.

First, Thank you for a fantastic addon. I use it constantly to help me figure out why killing 90 of these bears isn't helping my quest (wrong bears). Second, I was wondering if you could host this addon on the WowMatrix site or give them permission via GPL to keep a copy on their servers. I use WowMatrix to keep my addons up to date and they are unable to pull the latest version from the WowInterface site. Thank you again for everything you do for the WoW community.
--Frank

Hey there, I'm not sure if you've seen one of the newest (and most promising) addons that integrates Lightheaded support...it's called tomQuest2.

It's a great little addon and a nice replacement for FuBar_QuestsFu, but there's no options within it's OWN options to modify a few things on its version of the Lightheaded pane, specifically options that you include like changing all the comments from "pages" to a "scrolldown field."

I think that option to scroll instead of click from comment to comment is one of my favorite tweaks. But it appears that he neglected to add that variable into his own GUI options menu, even though he did add support for a few things like alpha and fonts.

I was just wondering if this can be done by modifying the Lightheaded module's .lua within tomQuest2, or something like that. For all I know, his Lightheaded pane is coded completely independently of yours. I haven't asked the developer to support this tweak yet because he's been pretty busy hacking away and trying to perfect his addon...just wanted to check with you first to see if there's an easy fix.

Thanks

EDIT: Just to clarify, I'm talking about this function that's available in Lightheaded:

/lh page - Toggles showing all comments on one page, or with multiple pages

As far as I can tell, this option isn't available within the "tq2LhFrame" options. Yes, you can mouse scroll down within pages, but you can't make all comments appear on one long page like you can with LH. This is what I'm specifically after.

In case you want to view his code for his LH frame module, it's in questsInformations.lua. Again, I realize this isn't your addon and you can't provide support for it, but I'm just wondering if there's a tiny chunk of code I can add into the .lua or something to make this option available.

Thanks again.

Let's say you're producing a podcast. You host this on a server out of your own pocket, and you use ads and donations to support this otherwise rather expensive (when popular) hobby.

Say a bunch of other people are also doing that. There's lots of podcasts.

Now, say I distribute an application that lists everyone's podcasts, including yours. I give a link which lets anyone watch/listen to the podcast off of your server. But, I replace all of your ads and donation requests with my own ads. So now, everyone can listen, but it's costing you money and there's no way for you to recover any of it. And I'm making money from it.

Is what I've done a "minor issue"?

Wow get a clue dude, do you even know the full story about WM, apparently not.

I'm sorry you have a problem with WM, especially for such a minor issue.

I like your AddOns, but I'm sorry to say I'm not downloading from WI anymore. The decision to block WM WITHOUT warning was BS. WI did not think about the impact this would have on its users on a major patch day.

I was thinking it was going to be hard to replace LightHeaded, but lucky for me you listed the replacement. It may not be quite as good as yours, but it will suffice.

I was also using TomTom, another great AddOn, but luckily I have a replacement for it already.

Thank you for making really good AddOns, it was much appreciated.

I'm also having this issue where it forces me to a triple wide, but I realize that it is because Questguru forces a doublewide, and lightheaded adds a third tab that when you close it, it closes the whole questlog.

I would like to ask if you can integrate the two so I can just close the lightheaded tab or if you would mind if I went into the code and did it myself, I will not realease my changes unless you ask me to.

Thanks