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NeedToKnow  Popular! (More than 5000 hits)

Version: 4.6.5
by: lieandswell, Kitjan

NeedToKnow: Simple, effective timer bars

Track specific buffs, debuffs, and cooldowns with bars that always appear in the same place in the same color. NeedToKnow is great for short buffs and debuffs you use a lot. For example, a rogue could show bars for Slice and Dice, Rupture, and Garrote.

  • Easy to set up
  • Works with spells, abilities, items, totems, procs, and internal cooldowns
  • Track more than one spell or ability with one bar
  • Works with Retail and Classic WoW

Other features
  • Save setups for different specializations
  • Track by name or spell ID
  • Show cast time indicator to see when to refresh buffs and debuffs before they finish
  • Make bars deplete at same rate to see which will finish first
  • Blink bars when buff or debuff missing
  • Track buffs on raid members without having to focus them

Instructions

General options are available in the Blizzard interface options menu. You can type "/needtoknow" or "/ntk" to lock/unlock the addon. To configure individual bars, right click them while unlocked. Bars work while locked. If you only see full bars that aren't changing in response to anything, they are unlocked! Just type /ntk to lock them and get them working for you.

You can enable more groups of bars by going into the Interface settings off the main menu and choosing the AddOns tab.

When entering your settings, be careful with your spelling and capitalization. Also remember that buffs and debuffs sometimes have different names than the items and abilities that apply them. The Death Knight ability Icy Touch, for example, applies a DoT called Frost Fever.

On each bar you can enter in multiple buffs/debuffs deliminated by commas. They are prioritized according to order.
i.e. "Rake, Lacerate" - If both are applied, will display Rake until it expires and then it will track Lacerate
i.e "Curse of Recklessness, Curse of Exhaustion, Curse of Shadows" - Good way to track single instance curses

If you wish to use SpellID, make sure you are using the correct one!


FAQ

Why won't NeedToKnow work for me? I set it up but the bars just sit there at full, not moving or tracking anything.
The bars only time things when the addon is locked. Type "/needtoknow" or "/ntk" to lock/unlock the addon. You can also use the buttons in the AddOns tab of the Blizzard Interface Options menu.
Why won't NeedToKnow track this buff/debuff? It works for other things.
Check your spelling and capitalization. Also remember that buffs and debuffs sometimes have different names than the items and abilities that apply them. The Death Knight ability Icy Touch, for example, applies a DoT called Frost Fever. If you're using a SpellID, make sure you have the correct one.
How do I track multiple buffs or debuffs on a single bar?
Enter the name of each buff/debuff separated by commas. They are prioritized according to order. For example, "Rake, Lacerate" will display Rake until it expires and then it will track Lacerate. "Curse of Recklessness, Curse of Exhaustion, Curse of Shadows" is a good way to track single-instance curses.
How do I get more bars?
You can enable more groups of bars by going into the Interface settings off the main menu and choosing the AddOns tab. If four groups of six bars isn't enough for you, consider another timer bar addon. Also consider rethinking your UI.
How do I get NeedToKnow to track my own DoTs but not those applied by other members of my class?
Select "Only show if cast by self" in the bar's configuration menu.

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Unread 03-31-12, 07:27 AM  
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Originally Posted by Kitjan
Originally Posted by Squishy Tia
Kitjan,

Is there any way to have a single bar be able to track a spell buff and then any resulting debuff once the buff wears off?
The way the Blizzard UnitAura api works, you can only look at buffs or debuffs, not both at the same time. That's why NTK makes you choose that the bar is watching buffs or debuffs (but not both.)

The best you can do right now, either in the buff vs debuff case, or the buff vs cooldown case, is to put two groups on top of each other. I haven't added a UI to up the number of groups yet, and you can't control which order the groups draw, so it's a little annoying to do this right now. Rather than trying to add features to a single bar, I think I'd rather make it easier to stack bars so you can assemble this kind of feature on your own.
No worries. In all honesty I'd rather see you spend your time on something like a cooridinate system for moving the bars around. It's a pain to line up different groups without either a nudger or coords you can manually enter to line them up. This is one of the primary reasons I make frequent backups of my saved variables - I do NOT want to lose my bar settings once I get them right haha - too much hassle.
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is there a way to move the icons to the right side of the bars doesn't look like there is a way could be a idea for a future update. also have them collapse as one runs out would be a nice feature as well.
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Originally Posted by Squishy Tia
Kitjan,

Is there any way to have a single bar be able to track a spell buff and then any resulting debuff once the buff wears off?
The way the Blizzard UnitAura api works, you can only look at buffs or debuffs, not both at the same time. That's why NTK makes you choose that the bar is watching buffs or debuffs (but not both.)

The best you can do right now, either in the buff vs debuff case, or the buff vs cooldown case, is to put two groups on top of each other. I haven't added a UI to up the number of groups yet, and you can't control which order the groups draw, so it's a little annoying to do this right now. Rather than trying to add features to a single bar, I think I'd rather make it easier to stack bars so you can assemble this kind of feature on your own.
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Kitjan,

Is there any way to have a single bar be able to track a spell buff and then any resulting debuff once the buff wears off? An example of what I'm looking to track in a single bar is the buff for Power Word: Shield, and once it expires or is otherwise absorbed/removed, to have that same bar switch automatically to displaying the remaining Weakened Soul debuff so I know when I can recast PW:S on myself or my focus target. Ideally if this were doable, I'd then set each tracking to its own color (Green for PW:S buff, and it would switch to Red for the Weakened Soul debuff).

This would sure beat having to have a whole slew of bars up on my screen at once, considering I already track the following cooldowns/spells on my priest:

Shadowfiend (cooldown remaining; NTK)
PW:S (Buff only currently; NTK)
Vampiric Touch (target; NTK)
SW:P (target; NTK)
Devouring Plague (target; NTK)
Velocity (trinket buff proc; NTK)
Dark Intent (buff; NTK)
Rapture (ICD, via Ingela's Rapture addon)
Mind Melt (small graphics per stack via ComboPointsRedux)
Evangelism/Dark Evangelism (via ComboPointsRedux)
Evangelism/Dark Evangelism duration (via NTK)
Shadow Orbs (graphics via ComboPointsRedux)
Shadow Orbs duration (NTK)
Empowered Shadows duration (NTK)

I have only one eye, so as you can see things have to be in view on an area of the screen for me to see while being large enough to read (I'm also nearsighted).

Such a capability to track buff>cooldown remaining would be immensely useful for things like Mage Ward, Mana Shield, Ice Barrier, and Shadow/Nether Ward as well. Thankfully I'm already familiar with how to set up multiple commands on the same bar, such as Battle Shout/Horn of Winter, with the first command on the line taking precedence over the subsequent commands.

NTK is one flexible addon, so hopefully there's a way that it can be made to allow buff>debuff tracking on a single bar. It'd save a lot of space.
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Re: Best addon EU - world too in fact

Originally Posted by pedesteen
So yeah... basically the best lightweight addon ever made.
But is there any chance of a future update with 5+ groups? Wud be sweet as hell.

Ty for /ntk
You're welcome Yeah, I want more than 4 groups, too. I originally intended to add that as part of the profile work, but that took long enough as it was.
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Best addon EU - world too in fact

So yeah... basically the best lightweight addon ever made. Use it for every character, and will never stop using it.
Anyway enough with the asslicking

I know its in the FAQ, but since this addon replaces like 10 other different addons for me, i do track alot of things on my toon (on different places on my screen obv). But is there any chance of a future update with 5+ groups? Wud be sweet as hell.

Ty for /ntk
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Thanks for the reply!

Guess this means i'll have to stay with ingala's Rapture tracker.


And if you ever add and ext. for this i would be 1 of the 1st people to download and test it!


Thanks so much for your hard work!
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Re: Hello

Glad you like it

Originally Posted by the04riverrat
Only 1 problem I seem to be having is Configuring it to Watch the ICD of Rapture.
NTK starts icd bars based on when a buff is applied to the player. Rapture doesn't apply a buff, it's just a energize that comes out of nowhere. That means you have to watch the unfiltered combat event log to catch it happening, and that's too expensive for what NTK is trying to be.

This sort of thing could be interesting as an NTK extension, though. It would be nice to have a few more hooks in NTK to make it easy for another addon to add new types of bars, and then if that addon wants to do expensive stuff, it can. I made a new ticket for that. I wouldn't be able to make a rapture addon, though, since I don't have a level 39 disc priest.
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Hello

1st off amazing job!

Really enjoy how much i can customize it. I have it set for my Shadow Spec and Disc Spec. And simply must say its amazing!

Able to Track When my Power Torrent Procs and many others. Its helped out loads. Able to now time perfectly my Shadow Fiend while im in Disc Spec. So that way i get the best possible regains on mana while Shadow Fiend is active

Only 1 problem I seem to be having is Configuring it to Watch the ICD of Rapture.

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=47537#comments

I'd love to actually Step away from Ingala's Rapture tracker. and Power Auras. And your Addon is perfect for this.

Just need to be able to track the ICD of Rapture.

Any help would be very much appreciated!
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Originally Posted by Kitjan
Originally Posted by Squishy Tia
Unfortunately that doesn't work if you already have two spec profiles for a specific character. I can highlight either, switch to either, but duplicate is greyed out for both.
Are you typing in a new name first? The "New profile name" box above the duplicate button has to be filled out for the duplicate button to enable.
I'll give that a shot in case I overlooked that (it isn't intuitive though - usually a duplicate operation duplicates the name with a numerical addendum, but I can work around that if all I've done is overlooked making my own name first).

Ticket 62. Just a pain to get a UI together, hehe. The main options dialogs are tight for space at their minimum size, and snapping systems are a pain to do right. I'll think about it.
It isn't so much a "snap to" system as a physical coordinate system or a nudger. Take a look at MoveAnything's nudger and you'll see what I mean. Just something (anything) to help align the bars without a jumpy mouse cursor trial and error snitfit.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go...repent...for drinking half a gallon of apple juice today. That's filed under Ticket #2.
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Originally Posted by Squishy Tia
Unfortunately that doesn't work if you already have two spec profiles for a specific character. I can highlight either, switch to either, but duplicate is greyed out for both.
Are you typing in a new name first? The "New profile name" box above the duplicate button has to be filled out for the duplicate button to enable.
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Originally Posted by Squishy Tia
Is there any chance of getting a coordinate system in place, or some kind of nudger so we can align bars more easily? Unever bars drive me nuts.
Ticket 62. Just a pain to get a UI together, hehe. The main options dialogs are tight for space at their minimum size, and snapping systems are a pain to do right. I'll think about it.
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Originally Posted by Squishy Tia
Unfortunately that doesn't work if you already have two spec profiles for a specific character. I can highlight either, switch to either, but duplicate is greyed out for both.
I'll see if I can reproduce that when I get home; you're certainly supposed to be able to duplicate willy nilly... that's the point!
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Originally Posted by Kitjan
Originally Posted by Squishy Tia
Is there a way to duplicate one of the two spec profiles without deleting the existing inactive spec profile
You should be able to duplicate to your heart's content, just name the new duplicate something that doesn't exist yet.
Unfortunately that doesn't work if you already have two spec profiles for a specific character. I can highlight either, switch to either, but duplicate is greyed out for both.

Example:

I have a setup that I like very much on my Hunter for her SV spec, and want to duplicate it. However, because I also have a NTK setup for her MM spec saved already, I cannot duplicate the NTK setup for SV spec. I want to keep the MM spec setup as-is for certain situations, but for raids I want the SV spec copied over (mostly for bar positioning which I went to great lengths to tidy up). Because there is no way to nudge the bars in any direction (like you can with MoveAnything's Mover), I need to duplicate the SV setup so I can mirror its positioning relative to ComboPointsRedux's location on my screen, but I can't, as you can see.

Is there any chance of getting a coordinate system in place, or some kind of nudger so we can align bars more easily? Unever bars drive me nuts.
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Originally Posted by Squishy Tia
Is there a way to duplicate one of the two spec profiles without deleting the existing inactive spec profile
You should be able to duplicate to your heart's content, just name the new duplicate something that doesn't exist yet.

Also, I've noticed that even if the settings have been previously hard-saved (as in saved on logout/exit of the game client to a physical file), if I reload my UI, any bars that are cooldown types revert to appending "CD" to them, and lose any time format choices I made, as well as all four groups being made active regardless of how many groups I had active previously.
Oh dear! That certainly hasn't been happening to me. Could you open a ticket about this? The comments aren't a good medium for going back and forth trying to figure something out. Start by following the instructions I gave in Ticket 122

I added a bit of complexity with regards to the settings to try to save memory, but I think it wasn't worth it... I may remove settings "compression" rather than risking it clobbering people's settings.
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