Group Calendar 4 

Cheer cheer Laibeus! I would hate to see GC get abandoned because some guys looked at Mundocani funny I now have an uphill battle to forcemy guild to use GC again ! They're all aware of the deficiencies of the in-game calender, yet seem to be locked into a mindset whereby they think that if it's part of the game, it must be better... Plebs.

Keep up the awesome work Mundo - this and your Outfitter addon are just superb.

Cheers,
Skan

Cool! If you need testers, put me in your list ^_^

Yah, I know how you feel, been there, experienced that (different game). I remember when some gaming companies started adopting a policy of "we don't accept suggestions" for the sole purpose of people claiming ownership. And I remember some add-on devs mentioned that it is in Blizzard's WoW EULA that they reserve the rights or something when it comes to getting ideas from third-party addons.

Regardless of those two mentioned, I think they will really act that way because they know how popular your Calendar is that even their own guilds (I'm sure) are using GC. They know the 'legal' problems that may arise, so they decided to just avoid talking about it, and as we can see, their own calendar is IMO, a degraded version of GC.

So, I can say that they see you as a threat to their own built-in calendar (because they chose to implemented a degraded version [probably, they still do not have any right to copy it fully]), and at the same time, an inspiration. Now that's where the first two things I mentioned above comes into play - should they hire you, or pay you, for being an inspiration to them (or showing them what they lack)??

Their actions might become your way of demanding something from them, so 'brushing' it off is the safest for them, of course we can not blame them for being 'careful', because they don't know if you would

With that, I strongly say that you keep working on GC. It is your passion, it is what you love, it is where you may one day be hired for by some other companies out there. By deciding to stop just because of those guys reaction or treatment of you, you are only going telling them that "you win". In the first place, this is not about who wins and who loses, it is about providing the best features out there, and GC is that.

And besides, even if GC was never born, money is still going to flow stronger and faster towards them. What I'm saying is, I doubt they see GC or any add-ons for that matter as "vital" to the life of WoW. Thus, keep it going, because at the end of the day, serious guilds are using YOUR add-on.

I believe many guilds today realized that GC is FAR SUPERIOR than the Built-in Calendar. In fact, below are the differences I noticed (and as a reply to the other poster):

Differences Built-In Calendar vs Guild Calendar
You have to invite people before they see your event. :: All those with GC installed will see your event.
If you don't have the permission for 'mass invite', you have to invite manualy. :: Same as above, all those with GC will see your event.
No option to show the time in your own local time (unless I missed that setting, tell me). :: An option to set your time to your local time.
Limited to your own guild. :: Cross-Guild communication is possible.

Any many more as mentioned earlier. That "invite" feature is the biggest turn-off of the Built-In Calendar, and that is why GC is still far superior, and we haven't started adding to the formula the other features of GC that the built-in calendar either downgraded or simply lacks.

^_^

Is Group Calendar relevant now that a decent calendar is built into the game?

Whenever I click on any of the tabs (setup, backup, about) it gives me this error:
What could be the problem here?

I will suggest that the GC for v3.x should (or can I say 'must' ) be in the line of "enhancing" the built-in Calendar and/or "building on-top" of it.

1) That way, those without GC can still see whatever was inputted via GC;
2) GC can use the centralized DB of the built-in calendar;
3) other things as well

For example, GC for v3.x instead of what it is now, adds cross-guild communication. If there is an update, GC writes the update to the built-in Calendar. If someone not using GC updates something via the built-in, someone with GC can push the update to the other guild.

Something like that, and I believe there'll be more useful scenarios in that kind of setup.

Of course, by using the built-in calendar, less coding for you guys

Now on the question of which UI.. I believe GC should have an option of letting the user choose which Calendar UI to use - built-in calendar or GC.

Then those who are going to GC-UI, can also have the features offered by the built-in calendar (like in-game events, centralized DB [mentioned above], etc.)

Just a thought ^_^

I dunno, I think its better that way, win-win for everyone.

Yes we use wowmatrix... and GC updated with others, and unfortunately i did not notice the b1... then to add to my frustrations.. when i did download 4.1 *from Here* i ended up with 4.1b5.. not 4.1 as is posted.

Anyways thank you for "updating" back to 4.1

They're likely using an auto updater like Wowmatrix. I had a friend tell me to update because they auto updated to the newest version.

Thanks for updating this for 3.0 and WotLk by the way, I use this mod exclusively for pugs and the guild calendar (built in) in xpac won't support out of guild events (or will it?).

Breathe.
Now look up /\
See where it says "Archived"?
Click that tab and download 4.1 from the list.
Problem solved.
GroupCalendar 4.1

What do you mean you did not want to update to this version?
Someone forced it on you?

Ok firstly let me start by saying i did NOT want to update to this version... nor can i actually revert back to v4.1.

I cannot find v4.1 anywhere, and when i downloaded 4.1 from this site, i ended up with 4.1b5 installed... not happy

Having said that...

1) i can click on events i made, but i can only access the attendance tab. cannot access Event or Edit tabs. Also cannot scroll down the attendance list, without closing parts of the list first.
2) i can click on events other people put up but can only access the Event tabs, and cannot see who all has signed up... not convienient considering i am guild master and raid leader.
3) i cannot at all access Setup, Backup, or About tabs on the main section of the window.
4) whenever i recieve a /w's i get several lines of [ TEST] [Group Calendar] arg1: whisper... and stuff

Please fix.. or at least release a NON beta version of 4.1 somewhere so we have a version we can stick to

Thanks for updating this, even for the widget code update it's alot of work done

A couple little bugs for users that don't happen to have Outfitter installed.

The check for wotlk (guessing moved over from Outfitter) has not been changed to the GroupCalendar version in 2 places in the xml files.

EventViewer.xml: line 10 and GroupCalendarTemplates.xml: line 389.

For users of the addon it's an easy fix, until an update is uploaded.
Go into those files/places and replace occurences of
Outfitter.IsWotLK with GroupCalendar.IsWotLK.

Death Knight support is also not in yet, so GroupCalendar will error on the WotLK beta,
but not on the ptr and soon to be live (which was the immediate concern anyway I believe).

Edit: I've made the relevant changes to have Death Knights included (en localization only)
so it doesn't error on the beta.
I'd be happy to send them over or post them as an optional patch here
(just the changed files not the full addon).