ncShadow 

Sorry, wimpface, but there's nothing to argue about here. You are simply wrong.

He made an addon that does something another existing addon already does. So what? When's the last time you browsed the addon lists here on wowinterface. There are literally hundreds of mods that do basically the same thing (e.g. bag mods, chat mods, minimap mods, gold trackers, coords, stats, and I could go on like this forever). Some of them are actually almost the exact same recycled code, to the point where it's impossible to say for sure who was the first person to come up with that addon. Do we have to go to each individual addon page and tell the author to give credit to someone who had the idea first (that probably doesn't even play the game anymore)?

How do you even know Zyn or what's his name had the idea first? Maybe he saw it on an obscure wow forum somewhere. Maybe a guildie suggested it. I'm not dissing him here, and I respect his work, but I'm just saying.

Oh dear god...

To think it was ME who started all of this when I asked Landrell about this effect on the "Screenshots of your UI" thread...

Same effect i get 3 mounts ago by mistake when trying to add backround glow texture to custom minimap addon tracking icon border.And i was think nice effect, but not for everyone.And i put it to release maybe in future.But i dont see Zyn's UI and i dont see ncShadow (first time i see this discusion and addons 5 min ago on forum topic opened by nightcracker) , so if i release it like addon atm i need to give credits zyn and nightcracker ?
I dont see ncShadow code and i dont see zyn s code.
as someone says under ,this is imposible to research all database and see what do other authors.
p.s
but this is a topic for ncShadow , i dont think here is the right place do discuss credits

Let's see:
- Ferous made the texture and so you got the idea for the addon
- You wrote the code and used Ferous' texture (credited).
- Zyn already used the same idea with a similar texture a year ago in his released UI

I do not think that it is necessary to give credit to Zyn - it is new to me that only one person can have an idea and others have to credit them when they got the same one.
Should every author with a new idea look through the whole databases on all the interface sites for an addon which basically does the same? Zyn's addon was also packed in some UI compilation, so you won't find the addon unless you click through each and every released UI and check their screenshots if someone got the same idea.

Without the intent of running down the idea or the authors: I do not really think that it is so difficult to come up with this. Blizz already did some similar overlay for low hp/mana and I'm using a similar (unreleased) addon for notifying me when spells procced. I have to admit that I even thought about the same idea a year ago, but then I never used it.

Even if it was not nightcracker's own idea: Most addons are 'inspired' from other ones when they were released and then just developed through updates their 'uniqueness'.

Come on, people. Don't start a debate on that small issue. There are lots of addons doing the same thing as other ones here on WoWI. The countless questlevel- and small chat-tweak-addons, not to mention all the money-displays people did for learning purposes.
Better concentrate on authors who really rip code or textures from other addons and not some author who already shows his willingness to give credits (nightcracker credited Ferious for the texture!). There are a lot of other people who refuse to give credit.

However, I have to disagree here. It's not the responsibility of another author to really ensure that credit is given. To me, credits are a sign of respect towards other people and their work.

So, even while you may not have a reason to credit Zyn, it is maybe a good idea to show him your respect and thus end this meaningless debate here.

Calm down everyone

Regards,
Carg

That's what he did in his first ui, where he came up with the idea. The actual addon was done in his second version of the UI, a year later I think. (As far as I know, Zyn did it first in 2007 (or early 2008), and then addonized it in late 2008, no? Would like a confirmation on this as I'm not sure at all.)
He's been running this idea for ages and he's the one that deserves credit for it. Just because you made your own addon and slapped on a "nc" tag on it doesn't make it yours at all.
The forum post you linked, with the "idea", do you *REALLY* think that that person didn't get the idea from the billions of people that have experimented with this idea for ages now after Zyn came up with it in the first place? If so, you're very naive.

I understand that you're using Ferous' texture, and that's fine as you're giving her credit for it. But you're not giving Zyn credit for the idea. Even if the case was that he didn't addonize it he still came with the idea to do this in the first place.

Google Chrome and Firefox aren't the same just because they're browsers. They have different functions etc. Now, this addon does the EXACT same thing as Zyn's addon did. The code might be a bit different, I haven't actually checked yours but I assume you just create a frame/texture and smack the .tga on there. Big surprise for you here, that's EXACTLY what Zyn did. NO FUCKING WAY D:

Yes, I realize the irony of me commenting on the "slapping a nametag on the addon"-deal. I used to do this myself some time ago, when I was completely new to coding and spewed out addons left and right. This doesn't make my opinion, or argument for that matter, invalid.

- Wimpeh

However Dominos was made looong after Bartender

although Wimp has a point (kinda), you aren't the first one to addonize it, Zyn did it already in late 2008 and I had the same overlay as an option in an older version of my UI

he wouldn't have to credit him cause he didn't know about his addon and he didn't copy his code and the texture comes from me.. so I don't see why it would be necessary to credit him... Just my two cents, you can take it or leave it in the jar! :P

False. Zyn's ran an addon to do this for a long time. I'm not sure if he's scrapped it. It's part of his !Zyn mod.

Credit where credit is due.

I played with an overlay like this a looong time ago (2009 ) and in my opinion, it makes the game experience a bit better =)